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New York, Los Angeles papers defend publishing terror stories
ap on Daily Comet ^ | 7/1/06 | AP

Posted on 07/01/2006 2:26:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Top editors from the Los Angeles Times and The New York Times, responding to criticism over publishing stories about a government program that tracked millions of financial records in search of terrorists, on Saturday defended their decisions to publish government secrets.

"We weight the merits of publishing against the risks of publishing," wrote Dean Baquet, Los Angeles Times editor, and Bill Keller, New York Times executive editor, in an op-ed piece that ran in both newspapers.

"There is no magic formula, no neat metric for either the public's interest or the dangers of publishing sensitive information," the piece continued. "We make our best judgment."

The editors wrote that judging whether to report sensitive information is a deliberate and intensive process, but they have an obligation to inform. "Our job, especially in times like these, is to bring our readers information that will enable them to judge how well their elected leaders are fighting on their behalf, and at what price."

The editors cited examples in which both of their newspapers had made decisions to not publish certain stories or details out of security concerns, noting that The New York Times story about the financial records tracking focused on its sweep and legal basis rather than how the program operated.

President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and some congressional leaders were most critical of The New York Times, which last year also reported on an electronic eavesdropping program.

In New York on Friday, Cheney called the leaks and their publication "very damaging to our national security. Putting this information on the front page makes it more difficult for us to prevent future attacks."

A House resolution that declared the reports had "placed the lives of Americans in danger" was approved 227-183 this past week, supported by most Republicans and opposed by most Democrats.

The op-ed piece appeared one day after The Wall Street Journal, which also reported about the financial tracking program, distanced itself from the Times story.

"Anyone who understands how publishing decisions are made know that different newspapers make up their minds differently," the Journal editorial said, noting that the Treasury Department approached the paper offering declassified information about the program.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defend; latimes; liars; losangeles; newyork; nuketheleft; nyt; nytimes; papers; publishing; stories; terror; treasontimes
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1 posted on 07/01/2006 2:27:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
"There is no magic formula, no neat metric for either the public's interest or the dangers of publishing sensitive information,"

There is too. Sells papers + gets Bush=PUBLISH!
2 posted on 07/01/2006 2:32:23 PM PDT by xroadie
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To: NormsRevenge

It would be nice if they published...

1) All the news about the terrorists that they have.
2) All the good news about what the war on terror has done for people in that region.

But so far they've limited themselves to all the news that's bad for Bush, bad for our country, or helpful to the enemy - and that's a very small percentage of the real news from the war.


3 posted on 07/01/2006 2:32:33 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: NormsRevenge

A class action lawsuit by all Americans endangered?


4 posted on 07/01/2006 2:33:00 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: coconutt2000
It would be even better if they published:

The names and employers of all sources discussed in the story. Preferably with direct, checkable quotes from same.

But of course, they won't.

Secrecy for me, and not for thee.

5 posted on 07/01/2006 2:36:47 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Meet the new dictators of America.....Bill Keller, James Risen, Eric Lichtblau, and Dana Priest)
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To: CindyDawg

that would be awesome!


6 posted on 07/01/2006 2:37:48 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: NormsRevenge

"a state of constant apprehension..."


7 posted on 07/01/2006 2:38:22 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Too bad we can't investiage the private lives of these editors and journalists, and publish them in "the public interest".


8 posted on 07/01/2006 2:43:38 PM PDT by ROTB
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To: Dems_R_Losers
They will not publish cartoons that are deemed offensive to Muslims. However, they have no qualms about publishing the workings of a program that intercepts money for the terrorists and helps us find the terrorists.

I think this is very offensive to our troops that are being shot at by the terrorists. The New York and Los Angeles Times have the blood of American Soldiers on their hands.

The philosophy of these two papers is quite simple. If it hurts President Bush or kills American Soldiers, or both they will publish it.
9 posted on 07/01/2006 2:44:40 PM PDT by cpdiii (Socialism is popular with the ruling class. It gives legitimacy to tyranny and despotism.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Our job, especially in times like these, is to bring our readers information that will enable them to judge how well their elected leaders are fighting on their behalf, and at what price."

If that had been the prevailing standard during World War II think of the headlines:

ROOSEVELT ADMINISTRATION DEFENDS DECISION TO DEVELOP ATOM BOMB: Times Defends Decision to Publish Einstein Letter

JAPANESE OVER THEIR HEADS ON GUADALCANAL: Times Defends Decision to Publish "Magic" Intercepts, Denies Publishing Will Hamper War Effort

US IS READING GERMAN MILITARY TRAFFIC: Times Publishes Exclusive Schematics for "Ultra" Encoding Device, Defends Decision Despite Pleas from War Department

The list could go on indefinitely. Suffice it to say we would probably never have defeated either Japan or Germany had the press been able to make their own decisions about what to publish, about what is and is not secret.

I seriously question whether we can win ANY war in the future if his attitude prevails.

10 posted on 07/01/2006 2:45:04 PM PDT by WarEagle (Karl Rove did it....)
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To: WarEagle

You haven't figured it out yet? I don't tnink they want us to win.


11 posted on 07/01/2006 2:50:19 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: NormsRevenge

Institutional investors should pull out of these stocks.


12 posted on 07/01/2006 2:52:59 PM PDT by Tax Government (Defeat the evil miscreant donkeys and their rhino lackeys.)
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To: coconutt2000

Amen to all that!


13 posted on 07/01/2006 2:54:33 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CindyDawg

The summer homes of Rumsfeld and Cheney were just published in the New York Times. Can't someone find out where Keller and Sulzberger live?


14 posted on 07/01/2006 2:58:11 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: gaspar

THat's the problem. Most of us really don't care.


15 posted on 07/01/2006 2:59:20 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: WarEagle
Add this one to the list.

NYT's publishes the Navaho Code talker's dictionary

16 posted on 07/01/2006 3:05:41 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: mware

NEW YORK TIMES.COM CENSORSHIP

I twice posted a non obscene comment at newyorktimes.com, twice it was removed.

My comment was not indecent, nor was it obscene. It was however critical of the New York Times’ decision to publish what they themselves refer to as “secret surveillance of international banking records”, as indicated on their site here;
http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/

The heading is; Keller Letter on Banking Data Elicits Intense Reader Reaction
The author is New York Times "readers representative" Byron Calame.

Twice, my comment was removed.

My original post:
________________________________________________________________________

“You disgust me, New York Times.

You undoubtedly wouldn't consider making public the minutes of your board meetings or pre-run strategy sessions, yet you will compromise legal, National defense strategies during a WAR.

I think it would serve a compelling public interest to know what goes on at the Los Angeles Times.

Cancel my subscription, John Q. Citizen”
William Hearst


It was posted, then removed. I notice that pro NYT posts don’t mysteriously go POOPH, into the ether. Look at the ratio of pro NYT vs. those who disagree with their decision to publish “secret surveillance of international banking records”.

Posts that meet their stringent censorship criteria, (ie. .pro NYT) versus those posts that oppose the NYT decision to publish the surveillance of the banking records of those who are linked to terrorism.

The posts that are critical of the NYT go away, all but the most benign.

I then posted this several minutes later:
________________________________________________________________________

“You disgust me, New York Times.

You undoubtedly wouldn't consider making public the minutes of your board meetings or pre-run strategy sessions, yet you will compromise legal, National defense strategies during a WAR.

I think it would serve a compelling public interest to know what goes on at the Los Angeles Times.

Cancel my subscription, John Q. Citizen”
William Hearst


PS………I was post #40, until you censored my comment. One minute it was posted and the next it’s been removed by the New York Times.

There are many pro Times posts, but we’ll see if mine is removed once again. I have logs and screen snapshots from my last post and will have them from this one as well.

Your blog censorship will soon be the laughing stock of dozens of other blogs.

I’d like to apply for Jason Blair’s spot, I too have no journalistic credentials…….I’d be perfect!

We’ll try this one more time. I will post my non-obscene comment and we will all watch you censor me….Go ahead, make my day. No one is watching!

Cancel my subscription, John Q, Citizen
William Hearst


Once again, some highly trained, very discerning, NYT sanctioned arbiter of free speech decided what speech is appropriate on their site. I find this to be ironic.

Is this not censorship?

I will post the text log.


17 posted on 07/01/2006 3:09:12 PM PDT by Driftnet (Cancel my subscription to this biased rag!..............John Q. Citizen)
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To: NormsRevenge

I move to amend the editorial... "There is no magic formula, no neat metric for either the public's interest or Al Qaeda's interest." the piece continued. "We make our best judgment."


18 posted on 07/01/2006 3:26:22 PM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London)
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To: cpdiii

Bill Sammons made the point today that there is no benefit to anyone in America (other than terrorists hiding their cells and activities) when the LA and NY Times expose the program of bank activity tracking of terrorist suspects. The papers are the only ones benefiting and this by supporting their agenda to get at the administration by whatever means they can regardless of harm it may do to this nation. That simplification of the issue seemed brilliant to me ... this nation would be better off without the LA and NY Slimes even going to print when it comes to the war against terrorists. The idiot Elenor Cliff tried to defend the indefensible by citing the publication of the Penatgon Papers as a similar benefit to the US, an exercise so desperate in its stupidity as to immediately expose the bankruptcy of the leftists! These are the enemy within, as they have now so openly proven.


19 posted on 07/01/2006 3:56:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: CindyDawg
MOCKING THEM ON EBAY
20 posted on 07/01/2006 4:13:26 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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