Brain Food (Amazingthing about Godless is the amount of intellectual meat Ann Coulter has packed...)

The American Prowler ^ | 6/30/2006 | Richard Kirk

[freedumb2003]

You don't strengthen your argument by trying to excuse the ignorance of the created when compared to the Word of the Omniscient Creator.

Which one? Odin? The Great Spirit?

And is this the Omniscient Creator that planted pre-aged "fossils" just to laugh at his (lower-case "h" on purpose) silly creation as they try to devine his trick.

[RobRoy]

>>Well, sure. Hitler's philosophy obviously goes counter to what is consensually considered to be the broad spirit of Christianity. Needless to say. Yet he accepts Jesus as Savior, and that's generally the demarcation of Christian versus non-Christian.

So you can say he was a twisted and perverse Christian who failed to grasp the full implications of the faith, and I'll agree with you readily. You can say he was a bad Christian, but he was a Christian nevertheless. Unless you want to play the same game as Muslims who wash their hands of Islamists by claiming they aren't Muslims.<<

With all due respect, this is not even close. Hitler CLAIMED to accept Jesus as savior. It doesn't mean he did.

Regarding the comparison to muslims washing their hands of the deeds of others, there is a big difference: Those that claim Christ and then do such terrible acts are going directly counter to His teachings. Those that claim Islam and do these terrible acts are doing exactly what the Koran tells them to do.

Big difference.

[finnigan2]

"Some do it for principle, Ann does it for the money!"

- Then again, some, like Ann, do it on principle but are so good at it that they are lucky to make money at the same time.
I think she's a lot like James Carville in that respect. Don't you?

[JCEccles]

You're no smarter than a rock. Darwin said so.

[OmahaFields]

I think she's a lot like James Carville in that respect. Don't you?

You made my point!

[ml1954]

You're no smarter than a rock. Darwin said so.

You're slipping. That's not even up to the level of Remedial Trolling 101.

[OmahaFields]

Those that claim Christ and then do such terrible acts are going directly counter to His teachings.

Knowing that the preacher will forgive him if he makes a nice donation and that God will ALLWAYS forgive him and reward him with a place in heaven.

[OmahaFields]

Islamists

Interesting how the Islamists are allying with the Christian fundamentalist in pushing ID down our throats in their battle against western science.

[freedumb2003]

"You're no smarter than a rock. Darwin said so"

where?

[js1138]

I think he was speaking directly to JC.

[freedumb2003]

LOL -- that took me a second or two :)

[jennyp]

>>do the parents have the right to kill their child?<<

Yes, God gave them the right to make that choice. Otherwise, they would find themselves incapable of doing so. In fact, if you read the old testament you may find Gods instruction on what to do with an incorrigible child rather interesting.

Naturally our government will not allow the parents to kill their child but, of course, the state is not God.

OK, I'm going to step away slowly & nonthreateningly now. Ummmm... Good luck with ... that ...

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"You're no smarter than a rock. Darwin said so."

No he didn't. Why did you make that up?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

>>do the parents have the right to kill their child?<<

"Yes, God gave them the right to make that choice."

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And creationists wonder why evolution supporters don't take their holier-than-thou pontifications seriously. We have seen support at various times for slavery, for banishment of medicine, for the rejection of reason as a tool of Satan, and now for filicide. But acceptance of evolution makes one wicked... lol

[webstersII]

"Of education, knowledge and wisdom, the least of these is education, and the greatest is wisdom.

I have found that many evos are big on education, have some knowledge, and have so little capacity for independent thought that they seemed to miss the wisdom boat alltogether."

Great point. Wisdom is knowledge rightly used. There's none of that in the evo arguments.

[soccermom]

"She's done little to no research and appears to have simply thrown this book together after a weekend of intensely reading FR." ROFLOL!

[jennyp]

Great point. Wisdom is knowledge rightly used. There's none of that in the evo arguments.

So what do you think about wise RobRoy's post 526? I, who apparently have mere knowledge but lack wisdom (since I'm a dreaded evo, QED), think that RobRoy's slavish bibliolatrous reading of Leviticus has caused him to embrace a truly evil belief: That it's morally acceptable for parents to kill their offspring if they don't turn out the way the parents wanted them to.

What is your judgement on that?

[qam1]

As I've said to many self proclaimed atheists (almost all are actually agnostics), if you want to see how a TRUE atheist would live, just watch the movie "Natural Born Killers". If we are an accident, the concept of an immoral act simply does not exist. Only fear would keep any INTELLIGENT atheist in line. That would make for a pretty dangerous and fearful world.

What a bunch of tripe,

But in the REAL world

1) Atheist/Agnostic are ~15% of the population yet make up just  0.2% of the prison population, while Christians make up 76.5% of the general population yet 83.8% of the prison population.

2) From 1991 to 2001, The Number of the non-religious doubled in number while at the same time the number calling themselves Christians declined by 10% this decline in Christianity is especially seen in young people.

Yet the even though the younger generations are the most unchristian,  violent crime rate has declined through this period, as well as the abortion rate dropped by about 25 percent for both married and unmarried women through the 1990s , The teen Pregnancy Rate Reached a Record Low, More Teenagers are saying no to sex and Drug use by teenagers continues to decline.

Now if believing in an invisable man in the sky had anything to do with being moral, As the country turns more secular wouldn't the trends be going in the opposite direction?

Here is two articles for ya' on how the morailty of young people in our country is improving greatly

Rush Limbaugh on the Next Generation and It's the Morning after in America

You will notice 1 thing missing from both articles, Religion.

3) Born Again Christians are more likely to divorce than Non-Christians

Born Again Adults  - 27%
All other adults - 24%

Non-denominational Protestant - 34%
Jews - 30%
Baptist - 29%
Mormons - 24%
Catholics - 21%
Lutherans - 21%
Atheists/Agnostics 21%

4) The births to unmarried women rate is highest in the Bible Belt

5) Modern day Japan is for all practical purposes an Atheist country yet their society seems to be doing fine. Compare them to very Christian countries like those in Latin America whose societies are in constant chaos and turmoil. 

It's not hard to figure out why this is the case, just look at the philosophies

Atheist: This is all that's it, you only get one shot so don't screw it up

vs

Christian: God doesn't want you to sin but *Wink* *Wink*, God made you a sinner so do what you will just somewhere down the road just accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and put some bucks in the collection plate and all is forgiven and you get to go to paradise for eternity!

[ml1954]

Great post.

[webstersII]

It cracked me up to read the word "bibliolatrous" in your post. I thought you had made up a word but I found out you didn't. If I use it 3 times today it's mine for life, right? :-)

My judgement is that this discussion about Leviticus has nothing to do with the Crevo discussion. My response to him was solely about Evolution, not about Levitical law or morality. You can continue to discuss those aspects of it with him.

But, since you asked, I do not at all agree with the idea that Levitical codes allow parents to kill their children and that makes it acceptable. I think that is an evil thing to do. But you are obviously aware that in this modern age many governments have actually gone back to a similar idea by embracing abortion, especially the concept of late-term abortion.