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'NYT' Veterans Frankel and Jones Defend Paper's Banking Story
Editior and Publisher ^ | 06/2806 | Joe Strupp

Posted on 06/28/2006 8:46:16 PM PDT by airedale

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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

GOOD!!!


21 posted on 06/28/2006 9:39:37 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Jameison
This lame-ass defense by the liberals is making me nuts.

The Times itself said it was a "SECRET" program. Front page, above the fold. Secret usually means nobody knows about it. If it wasn't a secret, why the headline and story saying it was, on the front page? Isn't non-secret stuff usually on page A32?

Libs can't have it both ways. Either the Times committed treason by exposing a secret program and aiding our enemy, or it has become a tabloid sexing up headlines and stories to sell newspapers. I don't think the latter is any more attractive than the former.

22 posted on 06/28/2006 10:13:11 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Meet the new dictators of America.....Bill Keller, James Risen, Eric Lichtblau, and Dana Priest)
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To: airedale
called the recent criticism an "outburst of Agnewism,"

One of the holy tenets: Thou shalt not criticize the liberal press.

23 posted on 06/28/2006 10:17:09 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Liberalism is like a religion....islam)
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To: airedale
'NYT' Veterans Frankel and Jones Defend Paper's Banking Story

Two more people stand up and say "throw me in Gitmo." May their wishes be granted.

24 posted on 06/28/2006 11:05:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (You'll always be wrong until you're right.)
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To: Jameison
Additionally, if the terrorists already knew all this,
how did we catch so many of them with the program?

That statement nails it to the wall.

25 posted on 06/28/2006 11:11:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (You'll always be wrong until you're right.)
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To: airedale


There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for the damage done by the NYT. The American people are outraged. The profession of journalism is now as shamed, dishonored and unethical as that of a shyster lawyer, or a used car salesman who puts sugar in the gas tank.


26 posted on 06/28/2006 11:19:21 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: LibSnubber

Well, now we see - they too support treason against your own country as the high and mighty goal.

I don't appreciate treason. Looks like we have uncovered the propaganda miesters true goals and possibly the source of their funds - terrorists.

Why are we to believe that they merely did this to give information to "the people"? They showed they do not care about the safety of "the people" so why should we believe they are doing this for us?

They are doing it for themselves - their power grabbing, their payoffs. Nothing anyone can say will make me believe this is merely the press standing up for the American people and the truth. This is to further their efforts against this war, against the Bush administration and to pad their own pockets by selling off American top secrets to terrorist interests.

They are traitors and this will lead to laws that will prevent the destruction of our country by our media.

And, I call for the Justice Dept to take action. If we have to have investigations over a non leak of a non spy - we must surely have an investigation over a public leak of top secret intelligence programs after being begged not to leak the info.


27 posted on 06/29/2006 12:06:23 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Involuntary term limits for all our representatives - I want them ALL OUT OF OFFICE.)
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To: kcvl

bttt


28 posted on 06/29/2006 12:11:07 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: airedale

29 posted on 06/29/2006 12:17:01 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: ClancyJ

"They are traitors and this will lead to laws that will prevent the destruction of our country by our media."

From your fingers to God's ears! However, I guess I'm getting to cynical in my old age because I fear that even if we get that far - to laws that will protect our country from the media - the liberal court system is waiting in the wings to rule these new laws "unconstitutional".


30 posted on 06/29/2006 8:53:05 AM PDT by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: spyone

"It will be if they don't prosecute."

This can't be stressed enough. You'd never know it from the reporting of the day, but the Tet Offensive was a mortal defeat for the NVA. Their commanding general TEACHES as such in places like the War College, and has written about it extensively. The press was part of HIS STRATEGY!

The key failing of the Vietnam War was Johnson's reluctance to prosecute the press, in my opinion. I'm not sure, however, that he expected a sympathetic liberal institution to shiv him like that. Rather and Cronkite are directly responsible, in my opinion, for the 3M people who died at the hands of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.

Agnewism indeed. The trial against the NYT would be a short one:

1. Introduce their editorial of 2001 calling for a program of surveillance on financial transactions.
2. A detailing of the events surrounding their purposeful release of the information when even JOHN MURTHA urged them not to. JOHN MURTHA!!

You try them and jail them. If you don't, they'll leak something even more important.

Some people only understand the whip.


31 posted on 06/29/2006 9:15:01 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: airedale
Jones, a onetime press reporter for the paper and current director of the Shorenstein Center at Harvard University, said this was "an important moment for the watchdog press in wartime."

Watchdogs that sound on every noise in the night are soon ignored.

In this case, the program was within the law and the Constitution, so what exactly was 'the watchdog press' watchdogging? Legal and Constitutional behavior by the government?

Keeping with the watchdog concept, this appears to be more like the watchdog barking at a cat. You see, when a cat catches and devours a mouse, it isn't pleasant to watch. But, the cat is performing a useful duty, ridding the homestead of mice. When the old, mostly-useless watchdog goes off on a barking jag, he annoys everybody and probably scares the mice back into their hidey-holes.

Watchdog indeed.

32 posted on 06/29/2006 9:26:33 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: austinaero

You said it! They are not AT ALL interested in selling papers! I know for a fact their subscriptions have gone straight down the tubes here in NYC (and you know how many liberals live here.) So you can imagine how much it has gone down in the Red states. I use to see the Times all over the place a few years ago, in front of my neighbors apartments, people leaving them in my taxi, not any more. And if you can beleive it, there is a newstand across the street from me that no longer has it! This guy sells everything; The Post, the Daily News, even Newsday, yet the Times is completely absent. I should take a pic and post it here. I have to ask that guy about that, why he isn`t selling it anymore. The Times is completely insane, it wouldn`t suprise me in the least if there was some terror money being thrown at it.


33 posted on 06/29/2006 11:34:58 AM PDT by Screamname (Why the hell is Kathy Boudin out on parole??)
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To: airedale
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34 posted on 06/30/2006 1:36:39 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: airedale; Mia T
INSTRUCTIONS FROM Grampa Dave:

 

Want to smash the NY Slimes?
Check your mutual funds to see if they own NYT, the NY Slimes Stock

 

 

How many of us own mutual funds which own NY Slimes stock and even worse have increased their NYT holdings this year.

NYT investment by a mutual fund company is a terrible investment re the dollar loss in Stock value the last 2 years. Those investments are an attempt to keep the NY Slimes afloat with our mutual fund $'s.

Now it is very evident that the NY Slimes is an agent and abettor of the al Qaeda Serial Killers. The Slimes is endangering the lives of our families, friends, innocent Americans and every warrior of ours.

Go to this link to see if your mutual fund owns NYT.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp

When the MS Money stock home page comes up, enter NYT into the search area and hit enter and the following screen will show up re ownership of the NY Slimes stock:

The New York Times Company: Ownership Information

  • Shares Outstanding 145.00 Mil

  • Institutional Ownership (%) 83.40

  • Top 10 Institutions (%) 58.60

  • Mutual Fund Ownership (%) 42.64

  • 5%/Insider Ownership (%) 7.77

  • Float (%)

Highlight the Mutual Fund Ownership and hit enter.

If thousands of Freepers, whose mutual funds own shares of NY Slimes did the following:

  1. Sell those mutual funds or trade them for funds not owning NYT.

  2. Send a letter to the fund managers and the CEO's of the mutual fund company telling them why you sold/transferred their mutual fund owning NY Slimes stock. Then demand to know why they are wasting your precious $'s on a treason/sedition company which is a terrible investment.

  3. Contact the SEC to investigate why this mutual fund and mutual fund company invested your $'s in one of the worse investments of the past 2 years. Was the investment of yours and others a political bailout of the NY Slimes.

  4. Send this how to re Mutual Funds with NYT stock to everyone on your email list for a wakeup call.

We might have a lot more impact than trying to boycott companies which sell to the elite liberals of NYC and advertise in the NY Slimes.



35 posted on 07/07/2006 8:35:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
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