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Demanding rights for great apes (new law signifies Spain's transition to liberal nutball utopia)
Reuters ^ | 06/27/06

Posted on 06/27/2006 9:41:55 AM PDT by presidio9

Spain's parliament is to declare support for rights to life and freedom for great apes on Wednesday, apparently the first time any national legislature will have recognized such rights for non-humans.

Parliament is to ask the government to adhere to the Great Ape Project, which would mean recognizing that our closest genetic relatives should be part of a "community of equals" with humans, supporters of the resolution said.

The move in a country better known for bull-fighting would follow a string of social reforms which have converted Spain from one of Europe's most conservative nations into a liberal trailblazer.

Backers of the resolution expect support from the Socialist Party of Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, whose government has legalized gay marriage and reduced the influence of the Catholic Church in education.

"With this, Spain will make itself a world leader in protection of the great apes," said Pedro Pozas, general secretary of the Great Ape Project's Spanish branch.

The resolution, presented by a Green Party parliamentarian, prompted criticism and some ridicule at first.

Spanish media quoted the Catholic Archbishop of Pamplona as saying it was ludicrous to grant apes rights not enjoyed by unborn children, in a reference to Spanish abortion laws.

But a spokesman for Archbishop Fernando Sebastian said he had been taken out of context and now supported the resolution.

"We are in favor of defending animals, but people come first," Father Santos Villanueva told Reuters.

Philosophers Peter Singer and Paola Cavalieri founded the Great Ape Project in 1993, arguing apes were so close to humans they deserved rights to life, freedom and not to be tortured.

"When a loved one dies, they grieve for a long time. They can solve complex puzzles that stump most two-year-old humans," said Singer.

The Spanish move could set a precedent for greater legal protection for other animals, including elephants, whales and dolphins, said Paul Waldau, director of the Center for Animals and Public Policy at Tufts University.

"We were born into a society where humans alone are the sole focus, and we begin to expand to the non-human great apes. It isn't easy for us to see how far that expansion will go, but it's very clear we need to expand beyond humans," Waldau said.

There are only a few hundred apes in Spain, mainly chimpanzees. But the resolution would also push the government to help endangered populations in Africa and Asia, said Pozas, speaking to Reuters at a sanctuary outside Madrid sheltering half a dozen chimpanzees rescued from abuse.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: animalrights
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1 posted on 06/27/2006 9:41:57 AM PDT by presidio9
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Apes? Must be they think its is thier Grandfathers.


2 posted on 06/27/2006 9:44:03 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: presidio9
"There are only a few hundred apes in Spain,"
Many more, I'm afraid.
3 posted on 06/27/2006 9:44:42 AM PDT by GSlob
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4 posted on 06/27/2006 9:45:42 AM PDT by Fighting Irish (Ever find yourself posting messages just to show off your taglines?)
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To: presidio9

This is madness. Apes are not the equivalent of humans in intelligence and reasoning (except perhaps Spanish leftists).


5 posted on 06/27/2006 9:46:11 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: presidio9
The Islamofacistss must be laughing their lice covered heads off about this.

"Andalusia will be easy pickings when we get back around to their campaign there!"
6 posted on 06/27/2006 9:46:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: presidio9

Kool!

7 posted on 06/27/2006 9:49:21 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: presidio9; dead
Hey Spain, there’s a war on.
8 posted on 06/27/2006 9:49:37 AM PDT by dighton
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To: presidio9

Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!


9 posted on 06/27/2006 9:56:11 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: presidio9

This is why I'm a Second Amendment supporter. If the great apes had and could use firearms, they'd have rights.


10 posted on 06/27/2006 9:56:58 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: presidio9
"Peter Singer"

Isn't he the guy who favors legalized bestiality?

From his Wiki entry:

"He favors a 'journey' model of life, which measures the wrongness of taking a life by the degree to which doing so frustrates a life journey's goals. So taking a life is less wrong at the beginning, when no goals have been set, and at the end, when the goals have either been met or are unlikely to be accomplished. The journey model is tolerant of some frustrated desire, explains why persons who have embarked on their journeys are not replaceable, and accounts for why it is wrong to bring a miserable life into existence. Although sentience puts a being within the sphere of equal consideration of interests, only a personal interest in continuing to live brings the journey model into play. This model also explains the priority that Singer attaches to interests over trivial desires and pleasures. For instance, one has an interest in food, but not in the pleasures of the palate that might distinguish eating steak from eating tofu, because nutrition is instrumental to many goals in one's life journey, whereas the desire for meat is not and is therefore trumped by the interest of animals in avoiding the miseries of factory farming."

What a fruit loop.

11 posted on 06/27/2006 10:01:08 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: presidio9

Incredible. Peter Singer, who does not support the right to life of an eight-week old child with spina bifida, is willing to protect a f---ing ape.

WTF is wrong with this world...?


12 posted on 06/27/2006 10:04:22 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

Or is this a different Peter Singer? Either way, it's out of control.


13 posted on 06/27/2006 10:05:21 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: presidio9

I wonder who the first Spaniard will be to marry one?


14 posted on 06/27/2006 10:07:48 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Having a Kerry/Edwards bumpersticker on your car is like having "Born Loozer" tatooed on your arm.)
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To: presidio9

Someone will legalize the human-ape marriage soon.....


15 posted on 06/27/2006 10:12:19 AM PDT by angelanddevil2
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To: Rutles4Ever

it's the same one.


16 posted on 06/27/2006 10:29:56 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: Rutles4Ever
WTF is wrong with this world...?

Sin....

17 posted on 06/27/2006 10:46:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Junior; metmom; Al Simmons; RunningWolf; AndrewC; VadeRetro; PatrickHenry

Yee Haw!!!!


18 posted on 06/27/2006 10:47:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: presidio9
The move in a country better known for bull-fighting would follow a string of social reforms which have converted Spain from one of Europe's most conservative nations into a liberal trailblazer bunch of pendejos grandes.

There, much better.
19 posted on 06/27/2006 10:56:35 AM PDT by Antoninus (Public schools are the madrassas of the American Left. --Ann Coulter, Godless)
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I guess if they are in the "community of equals" with humans they should get to claim government benefits? Has anyone started a voter registration program for them? While this is Spain, it has implications for the USA.

Since the Democrats in the USA are looking to the prisons, minor children, and illegal aliens to join their voter rolls, how long until they start banging on the doors of the monkey house? I mean, if it comes from Europe, its got to be a good idea...
20 posted on 06/27/2006 11:53:57 AM PDT by philled ("Enshrine mediocrity, and your shrines are razed." -- Ellsworth Toohey)
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