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MY SECOND ANN COULTER THREAD - EVOLUTION DISCUSSION (or Here We Go Again)

Posted on 06/27/2006 5:06:32 AM PDT by 7thson

Ann Coulter states in her book on page 201 -

Darwin’s theory of evolution says life on Earth began with single-celled life forms, which evolved into multicelled life forms, which over countless aeons evolved into higher life forms, including man, all as the result of the chance process of random mutation followed by natural selection, without guidance or assistance from any intelligent entity like God of the Department of Agriculture. Which is to say, evolution I the eminently plausible theory that the human eye, the complete works of Shakespeare, and Ronal Reagan (among other things) all came into existence purely be accident.

On page 202, she states The “theory” of evolution is:

1. Random mutation of desirable attributes (highly implausible)

2. Natural selection weeding out the “less fit” animals (pointless tautology)

3. Leading to the creation of new species (no evidence after 150 years of looking)

My question – is she correct in her statements? Is that Darwin’s theory?

On the ligher side, check out the first paragraph on page 212. LOL Funny!


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To: Ichneumon

" By what process, exactly? "

I state it as a belief, not as a naturalist view which can be verified.

But then again, your views are based on belief, since the fossil record changes can't be duplicated and observed in a controlled environment as real science would be performed.

P.S. Are you now going to call me a liar for stating my belief/opinion?


401 posted on 06/28/2006 7:30:03 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Russ_in_NC
Oh now I'm hurt. Because I dare to question your beliefs, I now don't even have a degree.

Where in my post did I use the term "belief"? You writing skills need to be improved. I find it sad that a person with a college degree demonstrates such.

Gads, I have to say your in the same boat. You too should ask for your money back. I thought Radio Astronomers were Intellectuals, who you obviously infer you are. Are not Intellectuals suppose to have compassion on the weak of mind, which you imply I am. I don't buy that your a radio astronomer. Your just some weak minded nerd trying to socially fit in.

Again, where did I use the term "weak of mind"? I was just commenting on you obvious lack of not only writing ability, but you general lack of science knowledge as well.

Hey - You were the one who claimed to be a scientist. Remember?

You need to go back to your school and demand your money back and then go home and beat the heck out of both your parents for raising you to be such a non-compassionate nerd.

Compassion I have. All you needed to say was "I don't understand, will you please help me". I would have fallen all over myself to help you, even if it took hundreds of posts.

FYI, in your above post, "your" should be "you're" - just one example.

402 posted on 06/28/2006 7:30:35 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Russ_in_NC
You've missed so many points on this thread, I'm beginning to suspect you're trying to throw a basketball game.

John Paul II was mentioned to demonstrate that you don't have to be an atheist to accept the Theory of Evolution. It has nothing to do with the Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility, whether or not one is Catholic, or whether or not the Pope is without sin (which has nothing to do with infallibility, btw).

403 posted on 06/28/2006 7:31:06 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: ahayes
I initially gave him the benefit of doubt on the first post of his that I read, but after reading the last few, I have to declare:

Their no way hes got a sceince degree from a reputable university.

404 posted on 06/28/2006 7:36:09 AM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields

... "weigh"


405 posted on 06/28/2006 7:37:11 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Russ_in_NC

Your link illustrates my point. Their words are "origins and early evolution," separating the concepts.


406 posted on 06/28/2006 7:41:38 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Cool beans. I would love to visit that place. :-)


407 posted on 06/28/2006 7:44:06 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

It's a state park about 60 miles south of Fort Worth.

Another good place for footprints is the Skyline Drive above Canon City Colorado. The prints are exposed from below. (This one's free.) There are more prints in the Eastern Colorado Plains but I've never seen them.


408 posted on 06/28/2006 7:46:42 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Russ_in_NC

Dude! (Or dudette)

I have never seen anyone dig a hole faster than you did.

My advice is when you are in a hole - stop digging.


409 posted on 06/28/2006 7:47:51 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Been to some of those. :-)


410 posted on 06/28/2006 7:48:58 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

"Welcome to the Eugene Ionesco Theater Festival" placemarker


411 posted on 06/28/2006 7:51:26 AM PDT by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: Russ_in_NC
that were carbon dated to be over 400,000 years old.

Carbon dating tops out at about 50,000 years. There has never been a carbon date of 400,000. An immeasurably old date might be shown as >50,000 or some such, but never something like 400,000.

The more you post the more errors we see. Its not engendering confidence in your accuracy.

412 posted on 06/28/2006 7:59:39 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: DungeonMaster
If you had just stopped right here.

I believe that you neglected to complete this sentence by explaining the hypothetical outcome of Ichneumon's stopping his setence prematurely. I did observe, however, that ending Ichneumon's sentence at the point that you directed would have made it as equally incomplete as your own sentence fragment, as Ichneumon's sentence opened with "while" and described a true statement, your editing cuts it short prior to the condition for which the "While" was used. Without that section of the sentence, the "while" makes no sense.
413 posted on 06/28/2006 8:10:26 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I have never seen anyone dig a hole faster than you did.
My advice is when you are in a hole - stop digging.

At this point, I think the only useful advice to give Russ is "learn to speak Chinese".

414 posted on 06/28/2006 8:14:43 AM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: betty boop

Getting popcorn ... Thank you so much for the ping!


415 posted on 06/28/2006 8:19:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: RadioAstronomer
My advice is when you are in a hole - stop digging.

That's good advice but requires a recipient smart enough to know he's in a hole.

416 posted on 06/28/2006 8:26:04 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Doctor Stochastic
You are wrong. Evolution describes the changes of life, not the beginning.

What? You think the overall idea of evolution is limited to changes in living organisms? Evolution covers everything from the big bang to man.

417 posted on 06/28/2006 8:27:37 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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To: DungeonMaster
"Evolution covers everything from the big bang to man."

Poppycock. The Big Bang has NEVER been part of the ToE.

Please stop while you're behind.
418 posted on 06/28/2006 8:28:44 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: DungeonMaster
Evolution covers everything from the big bang to man.

Perhaps you should consider obtaining your information regarding the theory of evolution from a source other than Kent Hovind. You are incorrect; the theory of evolution does not, in any way, cover the Big Bang.
419 posted on 06/28/2006 8:31:12 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

The ToE was the seed to a larger movement. The Big Bang is the beginning. Astronomers discuss Galactic and stellar evolution constantly. Stellar evolution leads us the creation of heavy metals and planetary evolution, which leads to biological evolution. It's all one big continuum. The fact that it wasn't part of Darwin's original idea is completely irrelevant.


420 posted on 06/28/2006 8:32:16 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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