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To: LibertarianInExile

I'm confused.

Property taxes fund some rather useful items like police and fire departments, two of the few things government should be in the business of providing.

And I'm much too young to have voted for either FDR or Johnson; I'm confused why you think I favored the programs of either. {Want to see the Goldwater bumper sticker I saved from my youth?]


319 posted on 06/25/2006 4:35:45 AM PDT by RSteyn
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To: RSteyn

Your original comment was:

"You and your age-cohorts owe nothing when you repay me & other boomers, with interest, all the bucks I have contributed for decades in property taxes to support the schools you attended."

My point was first, that if you attribute all your property taxes to exclusively funding "our" schooling, then reasonably, we should be allowed to do the same for the property taxes we will pay ourselves. So any you pay in will first off be offset by our own funding of 'next generation' schooling.

Second, if 'our' schooling is costing you a pretty penny, 'your' debts are costing us a pretty penny, and we'll offset any property taxes, hell, any taxes you paid in, by the money we'll pay to service and retire those debts, at the same time we're keeping up everything else government needs money to pay in, which will certainly total up to more than you paid in, since your generation's women will get guaranteed annuities until they die or the program is ended, and our paychecks will suffer until then, too. Even if the program IS ended, WE'LL still be paying taxes all our lives simply to cash it out, which is more than I can say for y'all, who will likely craft exclusions for senior income and accounts. Your top income tax rates have dropped during your prime earning years, while ours will CERTAINLY rise. If you want to complain about the rate of return on your "investment," in Social Security, that's fine, but there is no question that you personally have been in line all your life to get "free" government services paid for by that money that we'll eventually have to pick up the check for, and have been getting the 'benefits' of big government expenditure longer than Gen X has or will. Those years of guns and butter butter butter should nicely offset the shitty payoff you'll get for Social Security 'annuities' if it comes that way.

That said, I'm still saying we should give you back the money you put into Social Security, and I'm still saying you ought to get interest. But to thank you for it? We'll make a sacrifice of every cent WE paid in, and if you're owed, we're owed just as much as YOU are. I'm sure not going to thank you for paying ANY taxes like you've done us a big favor, especially when we're going to pick up the check for the next generation there, too, and we're going to pick up YOUR guns and Great Society check federally. You want sympathy about how much you paid in taxes, in comparison with us, and when you consider the basic FICA tax bill that's going to hit us, and has hit us all our lives, especially at the same time the government is making us pay for your drugs, your health care, and even our own health care in costly mandates to businesses to provide it when we simply don't need those sorts of programs ourselves right now, and we're probably not getting out of any of that even if we do solve the Social Security issue? You want to throw down generationally? You'll be long dead and gone by the time we can fairly compare, and I'm pretty sure it'll be as obvious to historians then as it is to us now.

No, I don't expect you to concede it, but you have to know in your heart that while the mess we're cleaning up may not be your fault--as if you could be at fault for being born--it is nevertheless because of the demographic splurt that is your generation. We'll probably be eating dog food to afford payments on your Social Security buyout while we're raising our kids, in what should be the best income-earning years of our lives. At the same time, we will probably hear Boomers pissing on Gen X all the way to the nursing home.

Now, I don't blame any Freeper Boomer personally. Y'all have probably been fighting the good fight all the way. But y'all pretend we're whining or slacking when we point out what you've left us with, and act like we should thank you instead. If your parents left you the country with a crushing mortgage and the bankers forced you to accept the country and pay that debt at the same time you were trying to build your own life--no way you could get out of it, not even bankruptcy, not even just saying no, don't want that debt--you'd be pretty p'oed too. There is no way Gen X is getting out of the bill about to come due, unless we leave our country financially crippled or physically emigrate, and most of us don't consider either a good choice for our kids' sake...which is why a lot of us ain't having kids, either.


322 posted on 06/25/2006 5:44:29 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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