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Immigration Drowning In Paper(scary, long read)
TampaBay Online ^ | 06/17/2006 | KEITH EPSTEIN

Posted on 06/17/2006 6:37:26 AM PDT by devane617

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This redefines the term Broken. How sad for our beautiful America that we let it fall...

"...Perhaps more alarming, some insiders are warning of the greater potential for fraud and threats that terrorists could slip more easily through the overwhelmed system. Bogus documents could be harder to detect.

Michael Maxwell, former director of the agency's Office of Security and Investigations, said that in the drive to reduce the backlog, the agency had conferred citizenship and other benefits to people without background checks.

The Homeland Security Department's inspector general is investigating reports by Maxwell and others that immigration employees skipped fingerprint checks, issued duplicate green cards and may have been bribed.

Maxwell, a whistleblower who quit in February, said that with legislation on the radar, agency director Gonzalez had pressured him to hire temporary workers so the agency would be positioned to process millions of new applications within nine months.

Maxwell resisted. "I pushed documents forward saying this was completely unrealistic," he said. "I mean, we're in serious trouble. We're going to have to deal with the consequences of a failed immigration system. There are vulnerabilities and loopholes you can drive a truck through..."

1 posted on 06/17/2006 6:37:27 AM PDT by devane617
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To: SwinneySwitch

Ping SwinneySwitch


2 posted on 06/17/2006 6:41:20 AM PDT by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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Wonder if RICO laws could help stop the American Immigration Lawyers Association and it's 10,000 members? Only half kidding.
3 posted on 06/17/2006 7:05:34 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: devane617

Anyone remember the Grace Commission?


4 posted on 06/17/2006 7:16:26 AM PDT by JmyBryan
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Bentley, the Citizenship and Immigration Services spokesman, acknowledged the lack of resources. "I don't know anybody who will say that, with what we have, we could add 11 [million] or 12 million cases and be able to pull it off," he said.

At this time DHS has 4 to 5 million people waiting overseas to enter the country LEGALLY. Currently DHS examiners have 4 minutes to review each file. How in the world are they going to review an additional 12 to 20 million with accuracy?

Michael Maxwell, former director of the agency's Office of Security and Investigations, said that in the drive to reduce the backlog, the agency had conferred citizenship and other benefits to people without background checks.

The Slick One pushed the INS to approve millions of applications for citizenship without proper checks so he could have new Democratic voters in the booths.
5 posted on 06/17/2006 7:19:48 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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Wonder if RICO laws could help stop the American Immigration Lawyers Association and it's 10,000 members? Only half kidding.

RICO? I think Shakespeare had a better idea when he suggested we need to hang all lawyers. May I suggest we need to start with the American Immigration Lawyers Association. I am not kidding.
6 posted on 06/17/2006 7:22:29 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: devane617

This is the elephant in the room or the dirty little secret. The bureaucratic apparatus neceessary to implement the Senate plan or the Pence plan is enormous. There is a total lack of understanding by the general public that there will need to be a major increase in USG staffing to implement comprehensive immigration reform and we don't have enough people now to do the current job.


7 posted on 06/17/2006 7:22:41 AM PDT by kabar
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But the benefits process overall was vulnerable to fraud and poorly managed. Each of the five immigration benefit service centers had its own computer system. It was therefore not uncommon for one alien to have multiple benefits files, sometimes as a result of a fraudulent attempt to win approval from one office after an application was denied by another. As early as 1991, terrorists exploited this deficiency. Mir Amal Kansi, who in 1993 fatally shot two CIA employees and wounded three others, had already legally entered the United States when he applied for legalization as an illegal alien as part of a class action lawsuit; he falsely claimed that he had entered the United States through Mexico in 1981.260 Mohamed and Mahmud Abouhalima, conspirators in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, were granted green cards (i.e., legal permanent resident status) under the Special Agricultural Program (SAW) program.261 SAW was an amnesty program created under the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.262 In 1999, the INS general counsel, Paul Virtue, testified before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration that amnesty programs were “subject to widespread abuse.”263

262 The SAW applicants had to provide evidence that they had worked on perishable crops for at least “90 days” between May 1, 1985, and May 1, 1986; their residence did not have to be “continuous” or “unlawful.” Nearly 1 million illegal aliens had received legal permanent residence under SAW, twice the number of foreigners normally employed in agriculture.
8 posted on 06/17/2006 7:37:27 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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"Who Will Cover $1 Billion Cost?"

Perfect example of why government should be the LAST choice to run something.

Simple business 101. Figure out the average time to process the average application. Set a reasonable pay scale for application examiners along with a reasonable number of supervisors. Now if you have "X" number of applications you can determine how many people you need and a reasonably accurate estimate of the cost to process. Divide the cost to process by the number of applicants add a bit of a cushion and gee Bat Man you now have the appropriate APPLICATION FEE. It fricken pays for itself and the US Taxpayer does not have to finance their own job elimination.

9 posted on 06/17/2006 7:38:49 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: devane617

Estúpido.


10 posted on 06/17/2006 7:39:54 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (DC-beyond your expectations!)
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To: kabar
This is the elephant in the room or the dirty little secret.

As columnist Mark Steyn noted in a recent column...that line
that the illegals will go to the back of simply does not exist.

As soon as a "comprehensive package" is passed, the guvmint will
simply throw up their hands and say, "We're going to be fair to the
illegals and just let them all in immediately."
11 posted on 06/17/2006 7:43:33 AM PDT by VOA
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As soon as a "comprehensive package" is passed, the guvmint will simply throw up their hands and say, "We're going to be fair to the illegals and just let them all in immediately."

Even that will take a huge new bureaucracy. You just can't process 12 to 20 million people that quickly, especially when there are 6 million legal immigrants in line now. All of this is just a scam to legalize the illegals and say that the problem is solved. It is a replay of 1986.

12 posted on 06/17/2006 7:52:43 AM PDT by kabar
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Bush is not stupid, he knows this is unworkable and it will give him just the excuse he wants to grow the Government even bigger. He is NOT a conservative.


13 posted on 06/17/2006 7:53:34 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: devane617

BUMP


14 posted on 06/17/2006 8:59:26 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (.....once there was a way to get back homeward.)
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ping


15 posted on 06/17/2006 9:03:37 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: devane617
It looks like to me that the whole dang system is broken.

From paperwork to borders.

We have known for many years that the immigration system was a white elephant and yet politicians sat on their rears and did nothing.

The Senate bill S2611 Shamnesty will only add to the chaos known as immigration.

It's time to back off and take another look at what the RINODEMS inexcusable malfeasance will do to our great nation.

From where I sit the view is already starting to look like a real SNAFU.
16 posted on 06/17/2006 9:15:19 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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I keep hearing the number "12 million" illegal aliens whom we plan to naturalize. But nobody knows what that figure is or if it is even close. Other estimates run up to 28 million.

Then, there is the additional 100 million or so we plan to let in and naturalize at the same time...

From personal experience, I know our legal immigration system is already overwhelmed and hardly functional. Adding this kind of a burden will ensure it never gets up off the mat - and neither will the United States of America after the economic costs, cultural chaos, bureaucratic catastrophes and unmitigated lawbreaking overwhelm us and turn us into just another turd world country.

17 posted on 06/17/2006 9:26:20 AM PDT by Gritty (The Senate Bill is a cynical corruption of the integrity of US sovereignty and citizenship-Mk Steyn)
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Somewhere I read that the true cost to American tax payers may be more than 60 billion to administer the give away of citizenship, AMNESTY to sixty to one hundred million illegal aliens.

That doesn't even take into account the billions of dollars that will be spent maintaining millions of these illegal aliens as they hit the welfare roles.
18 posted on 06/17/2006 9:27:25 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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Whats really sickening is that even if the paper files were computerized the system wouldn't work... I worked for 12 years at a defense contractors datacenter that did outside work for the IRS and the BIA among other gov't agencies... to save money they did their own datamanagement (backups , database maint, etc...) I know of at least 3 occasions where the BIA lost serious amounts of data that was unrecoverable from backups ... they were simply incompetent.


The way gov't builds things this'll just be a huge kluge ... similar to NASA's computer network ... just add one system at a time as needed for a specific function , never look at the whole... bids are awarded to the low bidder who bids just enough brand X equipment to do the job.. 3 years later when a new (but related) project comes up for bid brand Y is awarded the contract ... soon you end up with 6 different sets of incompatable hardware and software and the 3 oldest need replacing ... Until 1991 it took a week to get an answer on a simple inquiry into when part 12345 was last replaced... and that was if some 1960's computer didn't break down... they eliminated the hardware worries in 1993 by simulating the 40 year old tech as seperate virtual machines on a single large IBM computer running CMS..


19 posted on 06/17/2006 9:44:21 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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The irony is that the agency, which used to be called the Immigration and Naturalization Service and now is part of the Department of Homeland Security, finally has made some headway with its backlog, now at 420,000 cases. In January 2004, it was 3.8 million cases behind.

Headway means the cases were pushed through the systems without the proper checks or compliances.

20 posted on 06/17/2006 9:50:34 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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