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Border agents take gunfire; no one injured (Why Local 2544 Says No To The Shamnesty Plan)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | June 15, 2006 | Alexis Huicochea

Posted on 06/16/2006 5:15:36 AM PDT by conservativecorner

Several Border Patrol agents were fired upon Wednesday evening in Nogales while responding to a call about a vehicle that was entering the country without going through a port of entry, an official said Thursday.

Around 7 p.m. Border Patrol agents responded to a report of a silver Mercedes sport utility vehicle driving through the desert in Nogales, said Jesus Rodriguez, a spokesman for the agency's Tucson Sector.

As the agents neared the SUV, they were fired upon, he said. One patrol vehicle took rounds to the windshield and the body.

The agent in that vehicle fired back as did another agent in a separate vehicle, he said.

No agents were injured and it was unclear if any of the suspects were hit, Rodriguez said.

The SUV was abandoned and three people were seen running from that general area, he said. Inside the SUV, agents discovered 700 pounds of what appears to be marijuana.

The Nogales Police Department apprehended one person who may be involved with the incident, Rodriguez said. The names of the agents involved in the shooting were not released Thursday morning.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa
Background on the 2544 Mention in the headline:

Union Local 2544 U.S. Border Patrol

I have a question. Who can best comment on securing the border?

College Professors? Politicians in Washington? How about the members of the largest Union Local representing actual Border Patrol Agents?

Union Local 2544, represents Border Patrol agents and non-supervisory employees in the Tucson Sector of the U.S. Border Patrol, covering most of the state of Arizona. They are the largest local in the Border Patrol. Local 2544 Officers are all Border Patrol agents.

These are the men and women that toil in 100 degree summer heat. These are the men and women that risk their lives every day not knowing what they will encounter. They are the ones that have to live with the deals made in air conditioned offices within the beltway. They are serving on the front lines and have some very strong opinions. They have gpaidh for the right to speak out and deserve to be heard.

Here are the opinions of these brave agents, in their own words;

We fully support legal immigration, but we stand firmly against illegal immigration. We strongly oppose any attempts to reward illegal alien lawbreakers. We have risked our lives to keep them out of this country. The slick politicians can call it gguest-workerh or gearned legalizationh all they want, but itfs amnesty. Some of these politicians have missed their true calling. They need to be working down at the County Fair selling tickets to innocent children to try and shoot a 14 basketball through a 12 hoop so they can win the big stuffed animal.

Local 2544 has not been consulted in any way, shape, or form regarding the deployment of National Guard troops in this Sector. This is being posted in response to multiple questions about our involvement in this process. In a nutshell, there is no involvement. We were told we would be consulted. We werenft.

What gGuest Workerh and gEarned Legalizationh Really Mean - Donft those terms sound warm and fuzzy? Wellccin addition to the facts contained in the blog linked here regarding the administration of IRCA 1986, frontline Border Patrol agents were ordered to immediately release any illegal alien who made an amnesty claim, no questions asked, even though we were routinely uncovering massive fraud with simple field interrogation techniques. The illegal aliens we questioned before this order came down were mostly lying, and we were catching them in lies one right after another. Many had just entered the United States, but falsely claimed they had entered years before so they could gqualifyh for amnesty. One large group was tracked down and apprehended on the Tohono OfOdham Indian reservation about 10 miles from the border (in the middle of nowhere - therefs nothing out there, no roads, and no legitimate/lawful reason for illegal aliens to be there). Two of them had freshly minted gamnestyh cards. When questioned about the glast entryh they made into the U.S. from Mexico, the cardholders claimed they had entered years before and were just gvisitingh the rest of the group (approximately 100 total). Of course, their clams were ludicrous. (link for more)

Senator McCain Sells Us Out (again) - Senator McCain voted for the Amnesty Bill (S. 2611). Senator McCain has never been a friend to rank-and-file Border Patrol agents. He routinely ignores correspondence from Border Patrol agents and often gives the impression that he is just too big and too important to deal with us. He attempts to undermine our mission at every turn and actively supports the criminals who violate our laws. He always trys to downplay the fact that illegal aliens knowingly and willingly violate our laws, and he is a close ally on immigration matters with Senator Ted Kennedy, who we believe is the biggest disgrace of all time in the United States Senate.

Every day that President Bush and the Senate hold real border security hostage to their misguided amnesty program, thousands upon thousands of illegal aliens continue to flood into the country. Make no mistake, most of them get by us. We are losing this war, and itfs not even close. Contact your senators and congressmen now. Tell them to secure the border and tell them to reject amnesty programs (so called gguest-worker").

The Border Patrol has earned our support and ask for us to do one simple task, gContact your senators and congressmen now. Tell them to secure the border and tell them to reject amnesty programs (so called gguest-worker").h If you support the men and women who risk their lives defending the border you know what to do.

1 posted on 06/16/2006 5:15:39 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

Read this, you aren't gonna believe what is being done without our knowledge.....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1650437/posts


2 posted on 06/16/2006 5:19:50 AM PDT by TexasTaysor
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To: TexasTaysor

What do you mean we CAN'T send 11 million people across the border??

Mexico did.

My plan would never be considered, but it would bring this to a head by the end of next week:

Shoot anyone crossing illegally, dump them back over the border.

Enough of those on Vincente Fox's front doorstep will force a solution to this problem post haste.

See, I told you it would never be considered.

(Venting complete)


3 posted on 06/16/2006 5:26:01 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The American Spirit does not require a federal subsidy.)
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To: TheRobb7

I have no problem with your plan.....too bad we aren't in Congress


4 posted on 06/16/2006 5:27:45 AM PDT by TexasTaysor
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To: TexasTaysor

I am for your plan too...in WWII we called it an invasion...the Battle of the Bulge....shoot the invaders

its to bad these guys got away....only to return to do it again...


5 posted on 06/16/2006 5:32:24 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: TexasTaysor

Reliable reports tell me that this agreement will put every illegal alien from Mexico and their entire extended family anywhere in the world on our overburdened Social Security system.


6 posted on 06/16/2006 5:36:35 AM PDT by TexasTaysor
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To: conservativecorner
Senator McCain Sells Us Out (again) - Senator McCain voted for the Amnesty Bill (S. 2611). Senator McCain has never been a friend to rank-and-file Border Patrol agents. He routinely ignores correspondence from Border Patrol agents and often gives the impression that he is just too big and too important to deal with us. He attempts to undermine our mission at every turn and actively supports the criminals who violate our laws. He always trys to downplay the fact that illegal aliens knowingly and willingly violate our laws, and he is a close ally on immigration matters with Senator Ted Kennedy, who we believe is the biggest disgrace of all time in the United States Senate.

John McCain has time for myth chasing - Global Warming and Climate Change rather than the security of America or Arizona. McCain is proving himself a fraud who is interested only in the Votes from Special Interest. McCain is no leader.

7 posted on 06/16/2006 5:37:49 AM PDT by yoe
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To: conservativecorner
Nogales was the scene in 1918 of a large but now forgotten and very un-PC battle with Mex insurgents stimulated by German agents. The following is a good detailed account of this action. One wonders how long before such attacks will be common along the border. One also wonders if the response would be swift and devastating as it was in 1918.


A shooting incident on 27 August 1918 led to a full-scale shootout when Lt. Col Frederick J. Herman, 10th Cavalry commander at Nogales, rushed reinforcements to the international line. Three troops of the 10th Cavalry and three companies of the 35th Infantry took up position along the American side and returned sniper fire of Mexican troops. It would be known as the "Battle of Ambos Nogales" (Both Nogales).

A complete account of the Battle of Ambos Nogales was prepared by Col. H. B. Wharfield in his book Tenth Cavalry Border Fights.

Nogales, Sonora of 1918 was under control of a Mexican federal garrison. The local situation was complicated by agitation aroused through German agents and an accompanying rising dislike for us --- the Gringos. On the American side the people were on the alert, Most of the householders had a Winchester or other weapon in a convenient location.

During the latter part of August 1918 the Thirty-fifth Infantry at Camp Stephen D. Little was completing its movement to an eastern staging area for overseas war duty. Only Companies G, F, and H remained, awaiting relief by the Twenty-fifth Infantry (Negro). The cavalry camp had Troop A (tenth U.S. Cavalry) Captain Roy V. Morledge, Troop C under Captain Joseph D. Hungerford, and Troop F with Captain Henry C. Caron. Troop M of Captain John Lee and First Lieutenant Herbert W. Farrand were at Arivaca, and Lochiel was occupied by Troop B commanded by Captain Edgar R. Garlick with Lieutenant Shuman.

Manning the international guard station In Nogales were details from the Thirty-fifth Infantry. And patrolling east and west along the border were cavalry detachments. Lieutenant Colonel Frederick J. Herman, Tenth Cavalry, was with the cavalry troops and also acting Nogales subdistrict commander.

Military intelligence developed information that the Nogales situation was becoming critical. The Mexican garrison were, digging some trenches in the hills overlooking the American side. Groups of mounted Mexicans, some in uniforms, were seen moving along the trails into town, and the Sonora border guards at the crossing gate had adapted a changed and officious attitude. Such an explosive condition seemingly only awaited an incident for ignition,

At 4:10 PM. on August 27, 1918, a Mexican coming from the American side tried to walk through the guarded international gate without interrogation. When the U.S. Customs inspector (Arthur G. Barber) ordered " Halt! " the man kept moving toward the other side. Then the government official drew his revolver and went after the person. Private W. H. Klint of Company H, Thirty-fifth Infantry, followed for protection. A Mexican custom guard fired at the American official, missed him but killed Private Klint. Instantly Corporal William H. Tucker of Company H shot the Mexican officer. More Mexican guards came running and started shooting. The corporal opened fire with his Springfield and killed three more. The U.S. Inspector gunned one down. A civilian at the gate (Mr. Frank Eames of the Nogales Theater) phoned to the Thirty-fifth guard detail at the West Coast Company warehouse about the emergency. Another (Mr. Otto Mayer) cranked up his truck and sped to the place, returning with Lieutenant Fanning (Fannin) and the soldiers. They arrived amidst a fusillade of lead from the Mexican side. That was the beginning of the Battle of Nogales.

Capt. Roy V. Morledge of Troop A, 10th Cavalry, was in Nogales ,vhen the shooting started. He wrote:

I happened to be downtown near the depot when I heard some rifle shots, and then more. I saw them carrying a wounded soldier at the international street.

Motor transportation was scarce in those days, but I had a good horse, I sped over the hills a couple of miles to camp. On the way I passed Lieutenant Colonel Herman in a car. He had already gotten some news and told me to go on, get my troop out and notify Troop C and Troop F


Colonel Herman soon arrived and led the troops for the town at the gallop. I was sent down Morely Avenue. The place was a double street along the railroad tracks. At the little park the troop was dismounted, and one trooper detailed to hold each group of eight horses. Those left behind pleaded with me to go along.

Dismounted, I told the men to follow me. Not far along before we got a lot of fire. There was so much it was hard to tell where it was coming from. Also it seemed as though everybody in Nogales was shooting from the windows toward the border.

First Sergeant Thomas Jordan, F Troop, 10th Cavalry. At the time this picture was taken at the Nogales pistol range in April 1919, Jordan had over 20 years with the troop. Photo courtesy Col. H.B. Wharfield, U.S. Army Flet., who in 1918 was a first lieutenant with the 10th Cavalry.

Reaching the line in spite of the fire, we dashed into a big building on the Mexican side without resistance, but bullets from up on a hillside were hitting the place. We ran forward into another connecting building. It was the Concordia Club. In there were some frightened senoritas wearing kimonas. I got a laugh when one of them spoke to a trooper, saying, 'Sergeant Jackson! Are we all glad to see you!" But we did not have time to tarry for the soldier to alibi his acquaintanceship.

Colonel Herman ordered us to the top of the hill. Up we went in waves of a squad at a time, firing at Mexicans off to one side. We took a position near some old buildings and a barricade. Down below were the Mexican depot and buildings. From there they were firing toward the American town, and some probably just hiding. They also started replying to our action.

I hope we only hit those who were shooting. But there were a lot of bodies lying around. All of a sudden some one saw a long pole with a sheet tied on being waved from the top of the Mexican customs house down below.

I ordered the men to cease fire. It was then 7:45 P.M., and getting dark. Where the time passed I do not know. We had five men wounded, and the others wanted to clean out the town. However First Sergeant LaMar and I quickly controlled our skirmish line of troopers.

Finally orders came to move back across the border and bivouac in the park near the depot. There I saw Captain Caron with a bandaged wrist. Also the news came that Captain Hungerford of Troop C and Lieutenant L. W. Loftus of Company G, Thirty-fifth Infantry, had been killed as well as several soldiers.(13)

Capt. Henry C. Caron and Troop F, upon arriving downtown, crossed over to Terrace Avenue on the right of Troop A. Lieutenant Colonel Herman assigned the troop to move forward and occupy Titcomb Hill. Years afterwards Captain Caron wrote:

We left our horses at a lumber yard in the vicinity of the Bowman Hotel, and proceeded on foot up Terrace Avenue to our positions as designated. The Mexicans were on the flat house tops and the hills giving us a heavy fire, and we returned it.

I was behind a telephone pole with First Sergeant Thomas Jordan and got hit in the right arm below the elbow. Sergeant Jordan picked me up and carried me back out of the range of the fire. He then took command of the troop until I returned from the doctor's office. I had no lieutenants with me at the time.

(First Sergeant Thomas Jordan was given a commendation by Lieutenant Colonel Herman for taking command of Troop F during the absence of his commander.)

Captain Joseph D. Hungerford and Troop C were assigned the left sector and moved forward toward the Reservoir Hill for control of the heights overlooking the town. The troop advanced to the position, then crossed the border, clearing the Mexicans out of their entrenchments on the heights. During this forward dash Captain Hungerford was shot through the heart and instantly killed. First Sergeant James T. Penny then took command of Troop C. Subsequently he received a special commendation for his initiative and the handling of the troopers.


Meanwhile Major Herbert E, Marshburn, Thirty-fifth Infantry, arrived in town from Camp Little with contingents of Companies F, G, and H coming along in quartermaster trucks. Company H was held in reserve and moved to the rallroad depot near the border.

Company G was assigned to support Troop F, Tenth Cavalry, moving on Titcomb Hill. Near the line the doughboys became heavily engaged. A bullet killed Lieutenant L, W. Loftus, and Corporal Barney Lots was also fatally shot. Along a street Corporal A. L. Whitworth was hit in the groin and dropped in front of a house. Mrs. Emma Budge and Mrs. Jones, braving the fire, ran out and assisted the wounded man to shelter.

Upon arrival of Company F, Thirty-fifth Infantry, it got action in the support of Troop C on the Reservoir Hill sector. A private was hit and fell across the street from the home of "Colonel" A. T. Bird. June Reed, a niece of the Birds, and Miss O'Daley ran out the back and called to the man. He crawled across the street and was helped into the house. We young cavalry officers were very proud of June for the brave deed. She had favored our acquaintance and company over that of the infantry at the hops and Sunday horseback rides. After her display of courage she increased in favor as our special girl friend.

During the earlier part of the engagement another of our cavalry girls became involved. Pat Shannon, who lived in a hotel fronting Morley Avenue and near the line, had her share of excitement. Two armed citizens used the upstairs window of her room for a firing station, Pat stood close by them, handing out ammunition as the guns were emptied. She was the daughter of a Chicago physician and employed as pianist by the Nogales Theatre moving picture house. Some weeks after the affray Pat and Lieutenant "Dee" de Lorimer, Tenth Cavalry, were married,

In addition to the citizenry, who shared the. gun fight, there were some unattached officers and soldiers engaged.

The sergeant of Ordnance Depot No. 2 near the cavalry camp told me that during the fight overtown and while loading a truck with ammunition a colored trooper came galloping up, dressed only in a hospital gown and riding bareback with a halter shank to guide his mount. The "sick" soldier begged for a rifle and shells so as to join his troop. Army regulations to the contrary notwithstanding, the old sergeant picked out a rifle, had the trooper sign a receipt, and gave him a couple of bandoliers of ammunition. Off he went at an extended gallop, the loose hospital gown floating out like a sail, and his bare legs thumping the ribs of the horse in an urge for more speed.


The records show that Quartermaster Sergeant Victor Arana, with the Thirty-fifth Infantry, was wounded. It is probable that the sergeant abandoned his truck detail and chose to get on the firing line for the battle.

(Another Quartermaster soldier, Pvt, First Class James Flavian Lavery, earned a Distinguished Service Cross at the Battle of Nogales for "braving the heaviest fire, repeatedly entering the zone of fire with his motor truck and carrying wounded men to places of safety, thereby saving the lives of several soldiers.")

"Bill Scott", Photo courtesy F.H.L. Ryder collection

Lieutenant William Scott, Tenth Cavalry, was riding a motorcycle into town on business from Fort Huachuca. Nearing the cavalry camp he heard the firing. Speeding up he took a familiar back track for the high ground above the Sonora town. Arriving close to the place, the cycle was hidden, and he crept to the brow of the hill overlooking the scene of conflict. Besides his .45 pistol Scotty was armed with a new Winchester, which he had "souvenired" some months before at the Yaqui fight in Bear Valley. From his solitary station he spent the time picking off snipers from the rooftops below. Whenever there was a scarcity of targets, he kept in practice by potting chickens that were running in and out of the adobe shocks. Scotty was a former sergeant out of the Texas Big Bend border service. He had been on the Punitive Expedition into Mexico with the Sixth Cavalry.

Captain James T. Duke, Tenth Cavalry (now a retired brigadier general), was in Nogales on business and volunteered his services. After the death of Captain Hungerford, he was detailed to command Troop C. Major H. B. Cheadle, Infantry, on leave in town, also was assigned duties, Lieutenant James B. Potter, Tenth Cavalry, Adjutant of the Nogales subdistrict, served on the line. Lieutenant S. M. Lockwood of Troop A had duty as an aide for Lieutenant Colonel Herman during the affray. His liaison duties were doubled after the commander suffered a slight but hampering leg wound.

When the white flag was displayed, Colonel Herman had buglers sound "Cease Fire." A messenger from the Mexican consul in his office on the American side gave the information that the Mexican commandante and officials wanted a conference in the American consulate building located on the Sonora side. Sniping continued from various locations, but disregarding the danger, the commanding officer with Lieutenant Robert S. Israel of the Intelligence section proceeded to the appointed place. A truce was quickly arranged. The next day Brigadier General DeRosey C. Cabell, the Arizona District commander, arrived from Douglas. After a meeting with the Mexican official party regarding the situation, the hostilities were resolved.

That ended the Battle of Nogales.(14)

In fairness to the guard detail from the 35th Infantry, the remarks of then Lt. Oliver Fannin about a book called Blood on the Border by Clarence Clendenen are included here. Fannin was concerned that the book, and the accounts like that of Wharfield's upon which the book was based, give the impression that the Battle of Nogales was fought solely by the 10th Cavalry. He tried to correct that misleading idea in a letter that he wrote to his son in 1972.

A small band of enlisted men out of H Company of the: 35fh Infantry (who) were doing guard duty along the international border when the trouble started. These men were the real heroes. There were not more than 15 or 20 of them. They were there when the fighting started and they were there when it ended, less those who were killed or wounded.

The meeting of Herman and the American consul and the Mexican officials occurred in broad day light, out in the open, just across the international boundary line in Mexico. I know, because I was there, Herman having asked me to go with him. (Lieutenant Fannin was detailed as Colonel Herman's aide.) I remember distinctly that while this conference was going on a sniper's bullet cut off a small limb of a tree that fell pretty close to me and I felt like diving into a big ditch that was close to us. At this conference the American consul asked Herman what he wanted said to the Mexicans, and Colonel Herman replied, "Tell them to gather all of their forces and surrender them to me within thirty minutes." The American consul demurred, stating that the Mexican authorities could not gather together all of the people who were doing the shooting. The only shooting that was then occurring was some sniping, and it was agreed that both side would attempt to stop their forces from any further sniping.

The book (Clendenen's Blood on the Border) further states that Herman had received Information several days before the episode that there was likely to be trouble, and that although he was skeptical of this information, he had succeeded in obtaining reinforcements, including some machine guns. There were only two or three skeleton companies of the 35th Infantry there at the time, and I know of no reinforcements to these companies. I was officer of the day at the time that this happened, and it seems to me that if Herman had received any such information he certainly should have passed it on to me and the others who were doing the guard duty along the international boundary line at the time.(15)

Fannin would win the Distinguished Service Cross "For valor and bravery ... while under fire, carried a wounded man to safety in the Nogales battle." He was also the recipient of the following testimonial prepared by thirty-three of the leading citizens of Nogales.

The undersigned citizens of Nogales, Arizona, take this method of giving expression to our appreciation of the gallantry and bravery of Lieut. Oliver Fannin, of the Thirty-fifth Regiment of Infantry, U.S.A., and the men on guard duty at the International Boundary, at Nogales, Arizona, on Tuesday, August 27, 1918, upon which momentous occasion Lieut. Fannin was officer of the guard.

At the very beginning of the hostile demonstration, Lieut. 4 Fannin hurried to the boundary the reserve of the guard, and taking position he stood off the attack until the garrlson could be brought to the line and take up the work. The losses of his men, which were a large percentage of all the loss, show the bravery and gallantry of the little force commanded by the heroic officer. Through all the fight, with his men firing from prone position, Lieut. Fannin stood erect, encouraging his men, directing their fire, and contributing to the effectiveness of their work. Their loss of two killed and four wounded presents the perilous position then occupied and held.

In presenting this testimonial we do so without solicitation, to present our appreciation and admiration of a gallan officer and brave men.(16)

Capt. Joseph D. Hungerford, Troop F, 10th Cavalry, was killed while leading his men in a frontal assault on Mexican troops. Lieutenant Loftus of Company C, 35th Infantry, was killed by sniper fire as he brought his men into position. Other American casualties were three enlisted men killed, including Private W. H. Klint and Corporal Barney Lots, both of Company H, 35th Infantry, and several civilians. Two officers, Lt. Col. F. J. Herman and Capt. H. C. Caron, both of the 10th Cavalry, and twenty-nine men were wounded. Mexican casualties are not known, but found among the Mexican dead were the bodies of two German agents provocateurs.







Footnotes:

12. Glass, Edward L.N., History of the Tenth Cavalry, 1866-1921, Old Army Press, 1921,83.

13. Wharfield, 1965,16-23.

14. Wharfield, 1965,16-23.

15. Fanin letter in Fort Huachuca Museum files.

16. Fanin bio file, Arizona Historical Society.


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8 posted on 06/16/2006 5:40:34 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: conservativecorner
This is nucking futs.

We're under an armed invasion from Mexicans with machine guns and 'real' Assault Rifles and IIRC the BP only has a stinking sidearm to respond with. Yet the typical 'Podunk' P.D. SWAT team has more firepower than the 75th Ranger Regiment.

9 posted on 06/16/2006 5:41:09 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Condor51

Ya just won't believe this, and it's been going on for years:

IMPORTANT REPORT ABOUT CELL PHONE PURCHASES

9 June 2006: Authorities in Brownsville, Texas are currently investigating suspicious cell phone purchases that took place at four separate Family Dollar Stores in the Brownsville, Texas area. According to police officials, at least two men of Middle Eastern descent suspiciously purchased a large number of untraceable prepaid cell phones at local stores, traveling to different stores to circumvent the two-phone-per-customer limit. The Middle Eastern men purchased at least twenty-(20) TracFone brand cellular telephones. Although legal, they are commonly used for criminal activity because they are nearly impossible to trace by law enforcement officials.


10 posted on 06/16/2006 5:52:40 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

Don't forget the Pancho Villa raid on Columbus NM in 1915...Pershing took it to them for a few months....and then took it to Germany..it was are only "training" for our first troops over to Europe


11 posted on 06/16/2006 6:01:06 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: TexasTaysor

The problem is, I DO believe it!


12 posted on 06/16/2006 7:26:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: conservativecorner

The BP should be allowed to drill 40 holes in that SUV.


13 posted on 06/16/2006 7:27:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


14 posted on 06/16/2006 9:11:09 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: conservativecorner
"The agent in that vehicle fired back as did another agent in a separate vehicle..."

I'd like to know if our agents are issued RPG's! If not - get 'em issued to every agent's vehicle asap!

For any illegal filthbags reading this in other lands RPG is rocket propelled grenade (launcher).

15 posted on 06/16/2006 9:16:20 AM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: IrishMike; conservativecorner

bttt


16 posted on 06/16/2006 2:22:20 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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