Posted on 06/16/2006 1:57:54 AM PDT by Albion Wilde
Thanks for the ping!
They didnt, IMO. What Nixon did was far less egregious than what Johnson did (who made millions and millions off his political connections(w/radio stations), stole elections, lied to get us into Vietnam, ok'd far worse political shennanigans than Watergate, and so on) If the economy wasnt so bad at the time, Nixon would never have been impeached, IMO.
OTOH, if Clinton were CEO of any major company in the world he would have been booted for what he did. His administration passed the discovery laws that were used to bring him down. His dishonesty and corruption were overt and egregious. This was not only political malfeasance, any honest observer would have to admit that.
But honestly.. : Bush lied people died, Bush is a murderer..etc..thats on the same level as prosecution for perjury? You have got to be kidding.
Nonstatist, I agree with your post that Nixon unfortunately participated in his own downfall. However, I cannot follow your leap that somehow that equates to the media's excoriation of Bush ("Bush lied, people died", etc). That's an entirely separate issue from the legal grounds for prosecuting an impeachment. In Clinton's case, I wish the grounds had been stronger, and for an offense clearly related to the national interest.
Although I've made clear on this thread that I found Clinton's personal behavior reprehensible, the case against him was weak. It made a very shaky impeachment, one that all the libertines (Democrats) in this nation could simply ignore and view as a railroading over something that was nobody else's business.
Danamco, you seemed to think that if I regretted the fallout from the Clinton impeachment, I was in favor of his actions. Nothing could be farther from the truth, and you can take your judgmentalism and repent it, frankly.
Many lawyers believed that his sexual life was a weak case to bring against a president, given the undeniable history of mistresses in the White House "under" Roosevelt, Kennedy and Johnson. With Democrats, it's practically a given -- this represents a different point of view politically, and when Republicans try to prosecute sexual morality against the backdrop of family collapse our courts have fomented, it makes us look like rigid theocrats, just as the left complains. Jesus is looking for true conversion, not outside coercion.
It would have been better to find a more legitimate issue on which to impeach Clinton, one that clearly involved the national interest, such as discovering a communist link in Lewinsky's background and casting her as an illegitmate presence in the Oval Office (this would have been difficult, given the Clinton's broad embrace of Marxism). But the weak case over a clumsy sexual affair not unlike so many of his predecessors in the office just made Republicans more vulnerable for payback.
Had the Republican power base decided not to risk a weak prosecution, it would not have meant that they, or I, condone Clinton's behavior. It would have meant they had the Christian virtue of self-control to wait until they had a more conclusive case with better issues and evidence that might have less angered the Democrats into payback mode.
He perjured himself in a court of law. If that isnt enough for you, you are an ignoramous of the law.
As far as Bush Lied, People Died goes.. If the Dems win the Congress, Articles of Impeachment will be forthcoming, including a vote on it. And "political differences" are the weakest rationale ever for Impeachment.
bfl
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HILLARY & BILL CLINTON =
...Pushing the City of Long Beach CA hard to turn our U.S. Long Beach Navy Base over to the China Army Gang's COSCO (China Overseas Shipping Company)...
...in exchange for the China Army money flowing thru the CLINTONS' palms in the private residence of the White House during the 1990's.
Only to be finally stopped in Congress by We the People thru Republican Senator INHOFE.
During this process Democrat Senators BOXER & FEINSTEIN, as well as Democrat Congresswoman LORETTA SANCHEZ, publically proclaimed that they were going to return the China Army money campaign contributions they had already been given. (SANCHEZ by JOHNNY CHUNG)
After this process, Chinagate's JAMES RIADY ended up testifying in U.S. Federal Court during his own plea bargain hearing in Los Angeles that...
...not a single nickel of the China Army money he had given to democrats had every been returned to him.
And Chinagate's JOHNNY CHUNG publically confirmed that Congresswoman LORETTA SANCHEZ had never returned a single nickel of China Army money he had passed on to her as well.
The Enemy is now Within...
...and always has been.
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Only to be finally stopped in Congress by We the People...
It's hard to believe how determined the Clinton's are
to get back in the White House!
Power is a terrrible drug.
The Starr investigation involved a lot more than sex and perjury was involved, got the bent once impeached..thats a decent outcome.
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NEVER FORGET
The CLINTONS are as determined to reenter our beloved Oval Office to destroy a Free America...
...as North Vietnam Dictator HO CHI MINH was determined to take over a Free South Vietnam and then...
...spread Godless Communisn throughout all of Southeast Asia.
For...
the Enemy is now within...
...always has been.
Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-1st Major Battles of the Vietnam War 1965-66
(Vietnam War Photo Collection)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
NEVER FORGET
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