Posted on 06/09/2006 1:01:57 PM PDT by Babu
I would just like to see Murtha apologise to the Marines.
That's a little harsh, don't you think?
If this story does have more sensationalism than substance, then I would just like to see apologies instead of they-reported-it-too excuses, and a sincere discussion of why reporters were so eager to believe such a story that they took our enemies' word for it.
The press corps' irresponsible coverage of this story reminds me of reporters tripping over each other to report that black New Orleaners were turning cannibal after two days on their rooftops. Cannibal. Two days. That passes the smell test.[/sarc]
No I personally don't think it harsh.....this MSM and RATS have been at President Bush and the Administration and our Miliary since day one....anything they can imagine, make-up, (Blathergate) they have and will....
How many Senators and Reps are saying now if the House turns over to the RATS they are going to bring President Bush up on Impeachment Charges??????
NO I don't think this is to harsh, its time these people pay for what they have said....
The article that SBD1 found convinced me that Haditha is a lie. That and the only "witnesses" are Iraqis with an axe to grind. On a thread that I read, a Freeper who had been in Iraq say that lying is an accepted thing and no one thinks anything of it over there. Also, it was stated that Haditha was a propaganda center in another article.
Murtha needs to apologize to the Marines, all the troops, the President, the American people!
>>The Massacre at Jennin was carried every where as fact until it was proved to be a hoax...
Yes this smells of Jenin to me as well, along with the Time cover piece trumpeting 'massacre' before the facts are known.
I think you're going a little too easy on them, don't you?
No. ha. I agree with everything you said!
the other day I heard about that the story of the palestinian father holding his son in the middle of a shootout with israeli and palestinians and then the kid dies. Well, the whole thing was staged and a hoax!
Our press always gives all the benefit of the doubt ot our enemies and its up to us to PROVE our side's innocence. then, even then it is not recognized.
Things about this story have smelled a little funny from the get go. But, unfortunately, the sources within the military establishment seem to keep making statements that more or less confirm that something bad went down. Maybe these guys are just trying to impress reporters with how "in the know" they are and with how willing they are to do a mea culpa at some Marine's expense. But it's hard to get too enthusiastic about the "frame up" stories when the military itself seems to discredit them. At this point, even if it was a frame job, it's going to be a hard to announce such a conclusion after all the statements suggesting the contrary.
That's a little harsh, don't you think?
In a time of war? Nope. We are at war and the press undermines the war effort at every turn.
You're on target. This is beginning to smell as bad as the Duke "rape" case. If there had been any real massacre, it would have been reported immediately. It wasn't precisely because there wasn't any. Instead the terrorists and their American media collaborators took several months to concoct the story and manufacture videos, just like the Rathergate fake memos.
What sources? Are they named or "anonymous sources"? Do any named "sources" have anything to do with the investigation? Just curious.
AMEN and thank you!!!!
"The sum and substance of this thumbnail sketch on the Haditha claims is that it follows so closely the template for the TANG and Plame stories. Take a reporter with an anti-Administration agenda, an interested group (think of the Mashhadanis as the VIPS in the Plame case or Burkett and Lucy Ramirez in the TANG case) and a story too good to be checked and circumstances where the people attacked are limited in what they can quickly respond to and you get a story which smells to me like it will soon be unraveled.
This time, I’m betting the consequences to the press which rushed to judgment will be more disastrous than it was to Dan Rather. I surely hope so."
You may be correct about the story of Haditha being a hoax. However, even if it is, I am still quite unsettled about the possibility of the Marines being convicted. Whatever the forces that got the Haditha story in motion, one gets the distinct sense that at least a significant element inside the Marine Corps, and perhaps the Defense Department as a whole, have decided that the best thing would be for these Marines to be sacrificed to avoid some kind of bad publicity for the United States.
I have never been in the service but one thing I have figured out---armies are based on discipline. There is absolutely no way around this but it's certainly has many down sides, and one can be a difficulty in discerning what is true. One downside is, from what I have gathered from reading a fair amount about military history, is that "once the brass decides that it's raining, you better believe it's raining, and go find some raindrops to prove it."
Admittedly, I haven't really kept track of these or committed them to memory, but my recollection is that there have been some anonymous and some named. I'd be perfectly happy to be proven wrong on that. Like I said, the basic story seems a little far fetched. I could see a Marine losing it, showing poor judgment and firing out in anger. I could even see a couple guys going off. But having a whole company go house to house executing old ladies and whatnot just strains credulity. It strains it even more when the reports say they were found kneeling in prayer with bullet holes in their heads. I don't know much about getting shot, but my guess is that if I was kneeling in prayer and got hit with an M15 round or two, I wouldn't be upright after that - I'd be sprawled out on the floor.
"This time, I’m betting the consequences to the press which rushed to judgment will be more disastrous than it was to Dan Rather. I surely hope so."
Hopefully, the right person will get a chance to sit down with George Bush in a quiet moment and explain to him that if he allows these Marines to be sacrificed in this way (even by sitting passively by as others set this up when he definitely has the power to stop it)---he will be remembered for it for a thousand years.
Dreamin' I'm always Dreamin'.
How do you suppose Karl Rove got McGirk to do all this stuff?
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