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To: BurbankKarl
But the power of the Electoral College lies with the smaller states. How does California propose to get West Virginia, for example, to go along with this proposal?
8 posted on 05/31/2006 3:14:19 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
But the power of the Electoral College lies with the smaller states. How does California propose to get West Virginia, for example, to go along with this proposal?

Doesn't seem likely to me. A more interesting proposal would be to have all but two of the electoral votes for each state determined by congressional districts, with the remaining two cast as the individual state legislatures opt to define. It would also be likely to reduce the need for recounts to merely a few districts instead of whole states. Such a proposal would probably benefit at least 38 states, and would thus stand a much greater chance of passage than California's proposal.

18 posted on 05/31/2006 3:18:34 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Physicist

They are actually not concerned about the Constitution, because they intend to subvert the Constitution by the method of putting their proposal into affect.

Those states that adopt it will use it, and when, they hope, enough high population states have adopted it, it will have the desired affect on the election no matter how many small and medium population states have not adopted it.

It is a subversion of the Constitutional process because the method of adopting it does not require a mandate from 2/3s of the states and an act of Congress.

The "popular vote" idea would be a travesty for the Republic at some future point in time when just a few very high population states - could decide the election all on their own - no matter how few states they represented.

The "nation" is not simply the "population". It is the land, the states, the counties and the localities and the electoral college process requires that a winning candidate collect majorities in a majority of the local jurisdictions across the country, not just a handful of states.

Those that rightly see the error of the absolute tyranny of the majority must oppose this move.


89 posted on 05/31/2006 4:06:00 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Physicist
But the power of the Electoral College lies with the smaller states. How does California propose to get West Virginia, for example, to go along with this proposal?

This is a national movement. The Dems just need to pick off a few key states. Depending on the state, it may be possible for the voters or state legislatures to elect to join the compact.

EVERY VOTE EQUAL: A State-Based Plan For Electing The President By National Popular Vote

101 posted on 05/31/2006 4:10:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Physicist
Check out who is behind this movement
103 posted on 05/31/2006 4:12:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Physicist
Remember that the Left doesn't crush our liberty, it squeezes the life out of liberty like a boa constrictor, patiently, incrementally.

The impeached president's wife has already made the statement that the Electoral College needs to be overhauled or eliminated. They want the ability to use the popular vote or the Electoral College to take power, depending on what serves them best. Just as they demand a super majority in the houses to confirm a judicial appointment when the Dems are in the minority, but only a plurality if they are in the majority.

This is all about setting up the Dems to be able to win no matter what.
107 posted on 05/31/2006 4:17:59 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Physicist
Umberg argues that California is at a severe disadvantage under the current "winner-take-all" system because its lopsided voter registration persuades presidential candidates from both parties to spend their campaign time -- and money -- in "battleground" states.

If the real intent was to make California relevant again, the simple solution would be for California to allocate electors the same way as Maine and Nebraska do-- two for the winner of the state, one for the winner of each congressional district.

While this method would hurt the DEMS in the short run by lessening the impact of multiple votes and other shenanigans in cesspools of corruption like San Francisco, Chicago or Philadelphia, it would enhance their chances in the long run by forcing them to run more moderate candidates with broader appeal.

226 posted on 06/01/2006 12:40:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Physicist

NY and New England is all they need


259 posted on 06/01/2006 10:53:41 AM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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