What I have lost faith in is the ability of this forum to be a force for good because of the emotional nonsense going on here.
We have been invaded. Something indeed is "up."
When I distance myself from the nonsense, I see another conservative split tent in operation. I've been engaged in fighting the illegal immigrant movement since the early 90s. I'm informed. So, I mostly just pass on by those posts put forward by the recently engaged. (But I do study their Bush Bashing techniques and tag-teaming).
There are times, OhioWFan, that I know that what I'm seeing are those "newly awakened" to politics. Where they might have previously been uninformed or yes, even "moderates".
The thing about the "illegal immigrant" as a starting point is, it encourages one to open doors into all kinds of other side issues relevant to politics and elections.
On these boards, it's kinda like observing a Maginot Line in operation.
And in order for that Maginot Line to continue forward, often those with the belly of fire, cannot countenance more reasonable voices, or rather "seasoned" ones.
And the longer I have witnessed the unnecessary "Bush bashing" the more I have observed the fruits of aversion therapy: Folks will agree with President Bush to spite the "Bush Bashers".
Ach, well, and as you have no doubts observed, the "immigrant maginot line-rs" will ultimately meet up with the sleeper "pro-open borders posters" and will thereby have to make decisions, themselves.
Yes, something is definitely "up".