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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I can still smell the B.S.

At some point, you are going to have to drop the ridiculous defenses and insults and realize that something very bad happened here, and it appears to have been covered up. There is way too much smoke for there not to be fire.

20 posted on 05/29/2006 6:27:47 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

Been around long? This is an old VC trick. They'd go into villages and wipe them out. Made it look just like the U.S. military did it. This IS like "another Vietnam." Not in Iraq. It's like "another Vietnam" right here in the good old U.S.of A. Jane Fonda must be smirking. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. It was illegal for this little Jughead to talk about this to the press. Hopefully, if he really is in the Marines, they've carted his goatsmelling ass off to the brig.


32 posted on 05/29/2006 6:35:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Freedom or a baloney sandwich? A DemocRAT will ALWAYS choose the baloney sandwich.)
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To: sinkspur
At some point, you are going to have to drop the ridiculous defenses and insults and realize that something very bad happened here, and it appears to have been covered up. There is way too much smoke for there not to be fire.

It's obvious that something very bad happened there, and that our troops offed some civilians. It's an anecdote - not the rulebook of the US military.

I contrast this situation with the willingness of the press to maintain the fiction of the "Religion Of Peace" for the last 5 years.

36 posted on 05/29/2006 6:36:13 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: sinkspur

I'm not seeing a coverup as much as I'm seeing the jihadis pulling their standard "let's start a firefight, massacre a bunch of civilians using American weapons and blame it on them.".(They tried it in the mosque in baghdad, but there were too many witnesses.).

There is no 'smoke' here. It's a standard tactic used by an enemy that knows our press, and many politicians, will buy it and relieve the intense pressure they are getting.


41 posted on 05/29/2006 6:38:50 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: sinkspur

I'm supposed to be impressed because ABC paid some bootcamper, who shouldn't be talking anyway, to talk about what he saw after the fact? And lord only knows how those jackals twisted what he said.


133 posted on 05/29/2006 7:22:17 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: sinkspur
There is way too much smoke for there not to be fire.

You're sure hoping, anyway. The possibility that Marines might be to blame has you ecstatic, almost in rapture.

We'll see. Bullet wounds to innocent civilians can come from terrorist guns, too, you know. But that would ruin your fondest fantasy.

161 posted on 05/29/2006 7:38:13 PM PDT by JCEccles (“It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” Jefferson)
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To: sinkspur

"There is way too much smoke for there not to be fire."

What stunning logic! I bet you were the best in your womens studies class. There are men in every city but that does not mean some women was raped.

Nice try though.


373 posted on 05/29/2006 10:28:41 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: sinkspur
Given the MSM and our enemies' ability to generate smoke, I don't agree with the general principle. But one fact in this case is pretty much impossible to evade. The unit initially reported the Iraqis were killed by the bomb, and that just clearly is not the case, and was known not to be the case very soon after the events. Unless that "initially reported" turns out to be "for about 5 minutes", that means somebody lied about it. And men generally don't lie to cover up what shining knights in armor they actually are, but the opposite. If that is what you mean by "too much smoke" then I agree.
404 posted on 05/30/2006 5:03:53 AM PDT by JasonC
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