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Getting hoggish [Massive wild boars muscling in on area farmers]
TimesLeader.com ^ | Sun, May. 28, 2006 | JOHN DAVIDSON

Posted on 05/28/2006 7:13:34 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: cpdiii

Nothing wrong with a win-win solution.


41 posted on 05/28/2006 8:50:52 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Eagles6
A 25-06 will go right through a deer.

No and maybe, depends on shooter, got my first model 700 25-06 about 1978, killed several deers with it, never had a one go all the way through. Only had one run after I shot it. But then I roll my own and that makes a little difference.

42 posted on 05/28/2006 9:04:03 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Mariner
Had that been a 30.06 with 200gr partition bullets...there would have been a hole on the other side:)

So true!

43 posted on 05/28/2006 9:06:07 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

True love is a lab.


44 posted on 05/28/2006 9:07:28 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Mike Darancette
NOISETTE OR MEDALLIONS OF WILD BOAR WITH FRESH HERBS

Noisettes-Medallions 2-4 per person

Olive oil

Wine Vinegar

lovage, mint, chives, parsley

Yoghurt or single cream

Pack the meat into a dish and sprinkle with wine vinegar and olive oil so that they are barely covered. Add a small stalk and leaves of lovage, good sprig of mint, some chives and some parsley. All chopped not too finely. Leave to marinade for and hour or so, turning occasionally. Drain off as much marinade as possible, wet meat will not brown so easily.

Heat some butter in a large pan that is smoking hot and sear on each side, before reducing the heat and cooking to taste.

As steaks are done remove to warm serving dish. Pour the marinade and herbs into the pan and gently cook for a minute or so, until all the pan juices have been amalgamated. At the last minute check the seasoning and pour in the cream or yoghurt and serve

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And don't forget:

Sauce Poivrade
(Brown Game Sauce With Giblets and Cracked Black Pepper)
a la Julia Child

Serve this sauce with any kind of roasted or fried game, including venison, elk, moose, wild boar, or small game birds.

1 to 4 cups of giblets, bones and meat trimmings, raw or cooked

1/2 cup chopped carrots

1/2 cup chopped onions

6 tablespoons clarified butter (butter heated until liquid, with foam scooped off and remainder strained into a bowl, leaving white residue behind), lard or cooking oil, with more as needed

4 tablespoons flour

5 to 6 cups boiling brown stock or canned beef bouillon

Optional: 1 cup dry white or red wine, or 2/3 cup dry white vermouth or 1 cup marinade from game

3 tablespoons tomato paste

Herb bouquet of 3 parsley sprigs, 1/2 bay leaf, 1/4 teaspoon thyme tied in cheesecloth

1 tablespoon or more cracked black pepper

Brown giblets, bones, meat trimmings and vegetables in hot clarified butter, fat or oil and set aside. Slowly brown flour in the remaining fat and then remove from heat. Beat in boiling liquid, optional wine or marinade, and optional tomato paste if desired. Add herb bouquet and return browned ingredients.

Simmer, skimming off foam as necessary, for 2 to 4 hours. Strain through cheesecloth, skim grease from surface, add pepper, and taste and adjust seasoning as necessary. For venison sauce, add 1/2 cup red currant jelly and 1/2 cup whipping cream beaten into sauce just before serving.

Makes 4 cups.

45 posted on 05/28/2006 9:16:25 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Mariner
Had that been a 30.06 with 200gr partition bullets...there would have been a hole on the other side:)

It does not take that much gun to drop a pig. I started with 165gr GameKings out of a .308 because that is what I had, but most of the time they went clean through 200-250 pounders. I wouldn't want to use that load on something much bigger or meaner, but I was surprised at how adequate it was after so many stories. I use a 6.5mm now (.260 Rem), which can drill a hole through most specimens of North American critter -- more than adequate for a monster boar.

46 posted on 05/28/2006 9:21:36 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Eagles6
I think his comment referred to the size and toughness of the critter. A 25-06 will go right through a deer.

He shot the hog at 30 yards. A high velocity round like the .25-06 loaded with a conventional softpoint bullet designed for deer such as a Coreloct or a PowerPoint is used at close range like that the bullet will often expand violently and break up into fragments on impact, and fragments don't penetrate well. A premium bonded-core bullet or a solid copper Barnes X bullet would have stayed together after expanding moderately and passed through the hogs body in one piece. Anyway, the hog was apparently killed with one shot and that's what counts.

When I was still in FL I used to hunt feral hogs with an old Enfield .303 British SMLE surplus military rifle. It looked like it had been dragged through France and Germany in WWII by a British tank, but any hog that it hit went down and didn't get back up. Feral hogs are tough as nails and hard to bring down, it takes more gun to put them down cleanly than somebody who hasn't hunted them would think.

47 posted on 05/28/2006 9:38:36 PM PDT by epow (Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend, inside a dog it's too dark to read a book, Groucho)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Plus they're faster than hell running from a dead stop. But they're fun to hunt. And they taste good.


48 posted on 05/28/2006 9:47:27 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: tortoise
I shot a 250-lbs sow with a 30.06 165grn boat tail handload to 2700 fps at about 150 yds. It was a bump on the opposite side of her chest. I cut it with my pocket knife and the bullet was about 3/8 of an inch from going through. She ran about 60 yards with no lungs and a hole in her heart.

Hawgs are tough!

49 posted on 05/28/2006 9:59:42 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Lurker

The limit on pigs in CA is 9 per tag. Buy as many tags as you like.

They charge 9 bucks a tag. Dollar a pig, and they are all made of Spam!


50 posted on 05/28/2006 10:01:00 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (Brother, can you Paradigm?)
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To: Mariner

I've heard the Hornady SST bullets work well on hogs, too. I'm anxious to find out for myself.

:^)


51 posted on 05/28/2006 10:01:24 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Unfettered gun ownership is the highest expression of civil rights.)
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To: lastchance
I believe that there are no wild hogs native to North America.

The ones in this area (California) were imported from the Ural Mountains via Tennessee/Kentucky.

52 posted on 05/28/2006 10:02:56 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: tortoise

Like a lot of other creatures, it is an impedence matching problem. Too fast, and your round over expands. Too slow and you don't expand. I prefer "pre-expanded" bullets, at moderate velocities, like .45 Colt, or my old friend the .30/40 Krag with heavy for diameter rounds. Placement first, then penetration, and expansion is icing on the cake. At close range, headshots work best, but a pig's brain is pretty well protected from the front.


53 posted on 05/28/2006 10:04:43 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (Brother, can you Paradigm?)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Sounds like good sport for the real hunters. They should advertise it and get some sports hunters up there. If they find a way to charge for it, they can make more money than they can by farming.
54 posted on 05/28/2006 10:05:36 PM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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To: Coyoteman

You see this is what happens when you ignore illegal immigration.


55 posted on 05/28/2006 10:07:39 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: epow
I've got an Ishapore SMLE in 7.62. I've got some of those Barnes Copper Solid 168 grain BTHPs loaded up to use on Wisconsin hogs.

The guy I talked to at Barnes said they ought to work just fine on 'em.

I'll let you know.

BTW I 'sporterized' that old SMLE a bit. It aint' pretty, but I can ring an 8 inch cast iron skillet every time at 300 yards with it. Good enough for pigs I expect.

L

56 posted on 05/28/2006 10:08:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

"True love is a lab."

They can be a chore as pups, until the energy level settles down, but you're absolutely right. You couldn't ask for a more affectionate and gentle dog. My 13 yo is nearing the end of his life, I know, but he's still healthy, happy and getting around pretty well. It's going to hurt when he goes.


57 posted on 05/28/2006 10:08:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I have a lab and a lab mix.

Love them dearly as I did their predecessor.

You need to get your older dog a pup. Can bring new vigor to an older dog...

I was crazy enough to try and raise them both at the same time. Nearly lost my mind but they are 2 1/2 now and worth their weight in gold ( at least to me).


58 posted on 05/28/2006 10:11:52 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Donald Meaker
That's a pretty good deal. In Wisconsin it's $85.00 for an Out Of State small game license with no bag limit.

I'm what they call in Wisconsin a "FIB". You can figure out the meaning of the acronym yourself as it's not fit for a family forum. So they nick us pretty good.

But I figure $85.00 ain't bad if I can load up on a few in the 150 lb range.

BTW do you know what a large group of hogs is called?

It's a 'sounder'.

Yea, I'm full of useless knowledge like that. If you listen to a few folks around here that ain't all I'm full of.

L

59 posted on 05/28/2006 10:17:35 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

2 1/2? They're just starting to settle into that laid back, slightly goofy persona that everybody associates with Labs, instead of running you in circles, lol.


60 posted on 05/28/2006 10:22:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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