Death Penalty For Repeat Sex Offenders Passes Oklahoma Senate

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[2Jedismom]

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[King of Florida]

Excessive punishment or something like that. Regardless, this is a good law and should be expanded to armed robbery, IMHO.

And driving in the left lane under the speed limit.

[Gay State Conservative]

As satisfying as this would be,it's a bad,bad idea...for one,and only one,reason:

Any perp covered by this law would have a *very* strong incentive to kill his second victim.

Also,I'll wager that the SCOTUS would strike it down as "unusual",meaning that the punishment is not in proportion to the nature of the crime,as is the case with executing a murderer.

[Alter Kaker]

This directly goes against existing Supreme Court precedent, which makes it exceedingly unlikely to withstanding judicial review. A waste of tax payers' money imho.

[King of Florida]

What precedent?

See #20.

[DoughtyOne]

Sex crimes in Oklahoma plummet.

Sex crimes in other states go up a little.

[my_jai_05]

Even priests????

What will the Catholic Church say???

How about the Amish?

I wonder if religious figures won't get a break..

and I wonder about an 18yr old guy dating a young girl..them too?

Lets see how this plays out. I doubt they will pass the bill. No matter how much we want them too.

This is a country that allows illegals to do whatever they want, taxes the poor and pardons the rich, and cannot protect its own border.
I doubt the government will help us with this problem either.

[Leatherneck_MT]

Good start.

Now it should be changed to make it a mandatory sentence for anyone who commits the crime AT ALL.

Then we need to move it into the realm of rape. But with a rider that makes the alleged victim subject to the same penalties if what she testified to is proven to be false.

[acad1228]

So someone that touches a 13yo twice, gets the same punishment as someone that rapes a 13yo twice?

Okay, We'll kill the molester.
Then we'll kill the rapist.... A Lot!!!!

[Alter Kaker]

Sex crimes in Oklahoma plummet.

You really think child rapists go out and rape children because they're not afraid of spending their life in a maximum security prison? Do you have any idea what happens to child rapists in maximum security prisons? Sorry, I think the idea that this will have any deterrant effect to be kind of far fetched. It seems like lame political grandstanding. It's also going to cost Oklahoma a lot of money in legal fees, as it violates clear Supreme Court precedent.

[robertpaulsen]

"A bill to allow the death penalty to be assessed against a person who commits a second sex offense against a child under 14 years old passes the state Senate."

The death penalty? Well, thank heavens that a child under 14 would never lie about something like that, or is capable of being manipulated to lie.

[sinkspur]

Well, thank heavens that a child under 14 would never lie about something like that, or is capable of being manipulated to lie.

How many fathers in child-custody cases will be sitting on death row in Oklahoma?

[nightdriver]

If this becomes law, a father can get the death penalty for hugging his little 2 year-old daughter if the local CSD catches him at it.

[robertpaulsen]

From another article:

"The new proposal outlines specific crimes that on a second offense against a child under 14 could subject a person to life in prison or the death penalty. They are anal or oral sodomy, rape, rape by instrumentation and lewd molestation."

The touching would have to be considered "lewd molestation".

[CT-Freeper]

Personally, and I say this as a 100% pro-life person (anti-abortion, andi-death penalty), how will Capital Punishment for sex offenders curb any crime at all?

All it will do, IMHO, is give sex offenders a reason to actually kill those whom they commit the offense against, in order to try and limit their chances of being caught. Cause heck, if they're going to hang anyways, might as well try to not get caught.

The SCOTUS in Coker v. Georgia said as much. A rapist who does not take the life of his victim should not receive a more severe sentence than a deliberate killer. Want to lock the scum away in prison for the rest of his life? Fine by me.

Go ahead and flame away, I've already heard it all.

[stuartcr]

So someone that molests lewdly, should get the same punishment, as someone that rapes? I doubt then, that anyone would stop at just molesting.

[BJClinton]

And driving in the left lane under the speed limit.

Well, that's why I support HR 1035 which would allow public ownership of roof mounted rocket launchers for clearing those kinds of drivers off the road.

[robertpaulsen]

You got it. If this passes, I predict a sharp drop in the number of new, privately run, day-care centers in Oklahoma.

[Talking_Mouse]

On the face of it I like the idea. However, and its a big however, what about the 15 year old sleeping with the 14 year old; what about the 15 and 16 year olds who put a hole in the locker room and see 12 - 15 year olds; what about the exhibitionist who exhibits him/her self to teenagers but does not touch them, etc.

I agree wholeheartedly and completely we, as a society, need to kill the people who prey on children. I also think that not all sexual offenses are equal.

[DoughtyOne]

While I do see the logic in part of your arguement, let's be honest here. Child rapists don't get life in prison. They wind up back on the streets and repeat offend. When they do, I'd like to see them terminated.