We are not dealing with red herrings here, we are dealing with reality.
Your pulling in the Second Amendment is pathetic,pretending that Bush is somehow trying to abolish it.
This kind of ludicrous hypothetical red herring just make you lose credibility completely.
Your "my party can do no wrong or if they do I should't say anything about it" cause it's just ankle-biting creates the credibilty problem.
Guess I know how Zell Miller feels.