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Mexico opposes US fences
The Scotsman ^ | May 19, 2006 | ETHAN MCNERN

Posted on 05/18/2006 11:50:48 PM PDT by MadIvan

MEXICO will complain to the US government about plans to build fences and deploy troops along the border to curb illegal immigration, the foreign minister said yesterday.

Mexico has pushed for sweeping immigration reforms to help millions of Mexicans work legally in the United States but it fears Washington is more interested in keeping them out.

Luis Ernesto Derbez, the foreign minister, said Mexico would send a note protesting about plans to secure the 2,000-mile border, which hundreds of thousands of Mexicans cross every year in search of jobs.

"There are 12 million Mexicans on the other side, 12 million people who live every day in anguish about the need for a reform to let them live peacefully," he said.

The US Senate passed a bill that would see 370 miles of fences built at strategic points.

George Bush, the US president, was travelling to the border town of Yuma, Arizona, yesterday to press his case for tougher entry controls combined with reforms that would give millions of immigrants a chance to become US citizens.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boofreakinghoo; fence; mexico
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To: oldbrowser
Well, there you have it. The reason the Mexican Government doesn't want the outward flow of their citizens to the U.S. to be stopped is because it provides an outlet for those (young, restless, ambitious) who might otherwise get strange ideas about their own government, such as overthrowing the bunch of crooks. The current system is Mexico is based upon continuation of the status quo of the powerful and privileged and seeing that that money and power is retained within this very tight group of corrupt people.
21 posted on 05/19/2006 12:14:13 AM PDT by snoringbear
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To: MadIvan
What I am just wondering is how is their tourist industry doing?

After the UN freak show caused by the French with regards to Iraq, it was widely noted in the press that American tourists to France had completely crumbled and to this day I have not heard a change in that situation.

Since Mexico insists on making a huge stink about the border issue, I am wondering how many Americans are traveling there these days and what those economic figures might be.

Mexico is so quick to point at numbers, how come they don't point at those numbers?
22 posted on 05/19/2006 12:24:38 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: MadIvan

Lo sientos pendejos. Fix Mehico's problemos and then come here as touristas and spend your dineros in the USA.


23 posted on 05/19/2006 12:30:45 AM PDT by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I never answer the phone.)
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To: beaversmom

Our company took over management of some apartments with one upper rented to an illegal. He asked for an air conditioner. I told him he would have to buy his own window unit. He had a fit; told me he could not carry it back home when he left.


24 posted on 05/19/2006 12:34:35 AM PDT by raisincane (Dims think we're all oblivious to the obvious)
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To: MadIvan

MadIvan! You are a man after my own heart! Let's get married.

(Just kidding, for I know you have already been snatched up by a good lass with some Scots blood running through her veins!)


25 posted on 05/19/2006 12:43:35 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: MadIvan
"The matter of illegals is fundamental to the system of justice: what the pro-illegal lobby refuses to understand is that they are creating a precedent - they are basically suggesting that if enough people break a law, then that law is nullified. That undermines the rule of law itself."

Excellent point. Since these people feel that we don't respect the most fundamental of our laws, they will most likely go on to break others. The Senate must be held to task on this.

26 posted on 05/19/2006 12:54:35 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: MadIvan
If I were your President

That would be better than most of other potential candidates in 2008, but the Constitution has this thing about presidents being native born Americans. However, you can get around that technicality by changing your appearance with a LOT of make-up, claiming a last name like Ramirez or Gonzales, and learning a little border Spanish. Then you just get in line with all the rest of the Mexicans and cross over the border. Once you're here and believed to be an illegal Mexican, no old rules apply and you can do anything you want.

This Homeland Security stuff has been such a bad joke. Apparently every potential terrorist is going to be found in a U.S. airport. That's why we go through all the searches, take off your shoes, etc. before we can board a plane. Plane hijackings are passe today, too high a risk. But any Arab terrorists could pass easy as Mexicans and join the border cannonball run.

It's past ridiculous, I thought real countries had real borders, but not us.

27 posted on 05/19/2006 12:59:07 AM PDT by xJones
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To: MadIvan

i guess he doesnt want 12 million arriving home who knows what should be done in mexico...a little bit of ass covering here methinks...


28 posted on 05/19/2006 1:07:30 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: MadIvan
Mexico has pushed for sweeping immigration reforms to help millions of Mexicans work legally in the United States but it fears Washington is more interested in keeping them out.

I don't know about Washington but we the people are sure interested in keepin ILLEGAL law breaking parasites out, that's for sure.

29 posted on 05/19/2006 1:07:57 AM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: MadIvan
And Mexico's opinion mean what to us?
30 posted on 05/19/2006 1:10:16 AM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: doug from upland

And send the bill to Mexico!


31 posted on 05/19/2006 1:22:04 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: MadIvan
Mexico has pushed for sweeping immigration reforms to help millions of Mexicans work legally in the United States but it fears Washington is more interested in keeping them out.

Not just Washington, Ernesto.

The vast majority of the LEGAL citizens of the U.S. are interested in keeping YOUR problems out of our country, too.

32 posted on 05/19/2006 1:22:33 AM PDT by Allegra (Tards Rule!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
" What I am just wondering is how is their tourist industry doing?"

I'm curious too.

I can tell you around here, that now , that I think of it its not mentioned as a destination. Normally spring breakers would head that way and I can't remeber any of our friends or customers kids heading there, The bahammas, Florida, and texas come to mind, for both parents and kids.

I wonder how much of that is a conscious decision or a result of cancun still trying to rebuild?

33 posted on 05/19/2006 1:38:31 AM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: MadIvan
Ola, Mexico! STFU!
34 posted on 05/19/2006 1:51:04 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: oldenuff2no

The gonads on these people.


35 posted on 05/19/2006 2:02:57 AM PDT by TechnicalEcstacy (Ann Coulter - want to touch the heiny - aaoowwwooo!)
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To: MadIvan
re :Again, presumptuous, aren't they?

So would you be, if your economy was dependent on all that US greenbacks flowing into your nations coffers, and at the same time you can export your poor and dispossessed North.

From the Mexican Governments point of view its either win win or lose lose.

If the border was tightened up to stop the flow and the illegals kicked out, it would

1) Halt or limit the flow of US dollars to Mexico.

2) A lot of Mexicans with there bright northern future cut of and no future under the present regime may/will turn to violence riots anarchy.

Maybe it is for this reason and not because certain Republicans want a source of cheap labour that Bush is not acting as hard as he should be.

Maybe those in command are afraid of what a destablised Mexico may mean to the United States.

36 posted on 05/19/2006 2:27:35 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh
If indeed the flow is halted, it should act as as a stimulus for Mexico to get their house in order. There is simply no excuse for a country so well endowed with manpower and resources to be as poor as they are...corruption and lack of reform are inhibiting the country's ability to become wealthy.

Regards, Ivan

37 posted on 05/19/2006 2:29:48 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

When will George tell the Mexicans to STFU?

Don't guess it'll ever happen. Some sort of perverted love affair with them. It must be W's version of WMG (white man's guilt).


38 posted on 05/19/2006 2:31:04 AM PDT by x1stcav (Illegals go home! I'll mow the damned lawn myself!)
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To: beaversmom

Obviously the Mexican government cannot admit to it's own total corruption and failure in providing opportunity for it's citizens who then have to leave their precious homeland and seek a better life elsewhere. The U.S. has always been a pressure release valve for that kleptocracy known as Mexico, and they know it. They also know that we can't take the chance of having their country becoming a true enemy of the U.S. because of our shared border and current need for oil and cheap, illegal labor. They're pimping their own people to us and our government and businesses look the other way. Is it going to change much, I doubt it. But the fact that we are hypocrites and schizophrenic towards dealing with the issue is even more disconcerting. A sign of the times.


39 posted on 05/19/2006 2:38:01 AM PDT by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: MadIvan

I wonder if we could replace the fence with alligator infested moats?


40 posted on 05/19/2006 2:42:27 AM PDT by twntaipan (John McCain: Your 15 minutes of fame were up long, long ago.)
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