Posted on 05/16/2006 7:36:19 AM PDT by logician2u
Your words, not mine. I was just pointing out one of the numerous (negative) ways illegal aliens impact our society. Others include an disproportionally high crime rate (29% of all Federal prison inmates are illegal aliens) and the overall cost to the American taxpayer (around $100 billion/yr).
I'm tired of listening to the crap that the National Guard is not trained to contain the border. These same Guardsmen types are in Iraq. They have been in Korea maintaining the border. And to hear that they are not as well trained as the Coast Guard is pure nonsense. How much training do they need to point a AK47 at a intruder and say "Get down", cuff them, and march them to a Border Patrol van.
Mostly fall. I am even more disgusted.
"I'm sure 19th Century Italy, Ireland, and Germany were germ- and disease-free. Of course, our medical knowledge and care were so much better back then."
TB You need to go back and read the history of legal immigration during this period.
Many were quaratined or refused entry because of disease.
Thanks for defining what a conservative is and is not. I was waiting for God to come on this forum and tell me.
Bush claims removing illegals as not possible...Bull Sh*t!
I did not hear Bush make the claim that these illegal invaders are driving down wages in an ever increasing over taxed society.
I heard nothing about legal trades people getting shafted as wages for government related jobs go up.
I did not hear anything about a nation of laws and that 30 million ILLEGALS are outright breaking our laws.
I did not hear Bush say anything about a coming civil war that he and his buddies are helping to bring about.
I heard nothing about illegals breaking our welfare and hospital sytem.
WHAT A SORRY SPEECH LAST NIGHT.
Anyone who thinks the Federal government, in its present iteration, will (or can) do anything effective regarding illegal immigration (other than waste more money and increase the power of Federal employee unions) is kidding themselves.
the pubbies have a problem. their choices like those of the people on flight
93 are between certain death and near certain death.
If they allow the illegals citizenship--the illegal/legals will do what they did after 1986: vote democratic and tip the country to a democratic majority as they have done in california and that because after 1993 in California many mexicans began voting in california to preserve gov bennies--for which the dems excel. There won't be social security benefit for Americans of retirement age from the illegals/legals because they will suck up what ever they put into the economy--as they are now. They won't yield a net gain. ie they won't pay for anyone's social security.
Everyone but everyone who has ever been to any government building that dispenses anything from health care to drivers lisences can't help but notice that the place is swamped with foreigners. Basically the welfare state system set up in the 1960's is being totally gamed by foreigners.
If the president gets his way he will demoralize the republicans bringing on the effects of the 1992 & 1996 elections. There may not even be a third party but when W builds in a reversal of the fortunes of the war of 1848--it creates a kind of passivity in people when they see their leaders commit them to the status of world historical losers.
If Bush decides to put up a wall and expel the illegals then there is a chance to preserve Republican majorities. It would be helpful to promise that the USA will kill the cost of water desalination and transport so as to make it economically possible to turn the deserts 1000 miles from any desert seacoast -- green. (this would increase the habitable size of the USA by a third and double the habitable size of Mexico.)This work is already ongoing and will be accomplished in five years or so--or in about the same time frame that GM promises to have a cost effective fuel cell car. For GM as it is for the GOP its do or die time.
The chief difference between the pubbies current predicament and flight 93 is that they are currently in the cockpit. (if you presume that bush is a republican or at least more of a republican than a bilderburger.)
The point here is that if these guys cannot act like loyal americans at least they can act like republicans. ie people who have a stake in the continuity of the republican party.
Since they are not doing this the republicans in the white house and senate all need to be smacked on both sides of the face and kicked in the but.
Yes, you are correct, many (some?) were.
REALITY?... a CRISIS?... O.K. multi million Brand New DEMOCRATS voting in the 2008 election.. either as illegal or legal aliens or new citizens.. not only may elect she who should not be named (Jaws theme).. or her minions in the house and senate.. or all three..
And THATS reality brother.. and a crisis... BUT Not if you're a democrat or a American misanthrope in the White RINO House..
The voteing demographics are rapidily changeing in America as we speak.. from republican to democrat.. Yes thats right from RINO to democrat.. Conservatives are or soon will be a die'ing party.. of paleo Americans.. The secret is RINOs are really democrats cross dressed.. Democrats know that, republicans DO NOT.. (mostly).. Compassionate conservatives a.k.a. the confused.. will be the last find this out.. but won't care anyway..
Rank and gross socialism is heading for America like a freight train.. and the driver is the White RINO House.. and a good part of Congress, especially the democrats.. and the trans-politicos (RINOs)..
You've confirmed once again that FReepers are well above the fray, able to respond with well-reasoned arguments (oftentimes spelled arguements just to make it interesting) never having read the article under discussion, effectively shooting from the hip before unholstering their weapon.
References? Links? We don't need no steeeenkin' links when we have our pal, ad hominem to fall back on.
Trust me.
BumPing!
Since you apparently are, maybe you will email Nick Gillespie and fill him in? I'm sure he'd appreciate it.
(His email link is in the article, under post #1 if you didn't see it the first time.)
Well, the traitors in the Senate want to legislate the admission into the U.S. of another 120 million immigrants over the next 20 years.
Neat, huh?
that'll be 25% non-born people comprising the American population.
real neat.
non-born = non-native born people
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