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Half the country hate her, but she's still on track
The Sunday Times ^ | May 14, 2006 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 05/13/2006 7:46:28 PM PDT by ncountylee

There is a rapidly congealing consensus about Hillary Clinton among Democrats. The first is that it’s hard to see how she can be stopped from becoming the party’s nominee for president in 2008. The second is that nobody really wants her to be the nominee. If this sounds familiar, it is. The Democrats had exactly the same feelings about their last two nominees, Al Gore and John Kerry. They both lost, of course, although there will always be an asterisk next to the name Gore on that one.

Most Democrats I know also fear that, at an unusually propitious time for their party, Hillary could lose the White House for them again as well. In almost every straw poll she loses big to potential rivals such as John McCain and Rudy Giuliani. About a third of the country already strongly disapproves of her. Unlike McCain and Giuliani, her unfavourable ratings actually beat out her favourable ones. And that’s after five years of very careful and very good PR.

The inevitability argument for Hillary is a strong one. In some ways she is now following George W Bush’s tack in 2000. She has amassed way more money than any of her rivals — more than $40m at the last count — and has a nepotistic connection to the last president in her own party. Her name recognition is through the roof. She lives in that rare pantheon of women whose global reach overwhelms the need for any surname: Diana, Oprah, Madonna, Condi, Hillary. In the latest polls of Democrats, Hillary is favoured by 38% of potential primary voters. Kerry is second with 14%.

Chuck Todd, editor of Washington’s Hotline put her position thus: “Frankly, to call her an 800lb gorilla would be underselling her.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 05/13/2006 7:46:29 PM PDT by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

If the Republicans run either McCain or Giuliani, Hillary will retake the White House.

Republicans need to run Republicans - not retooled RATs.


2 posted on 05/13/2006 7:50:01 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: ncountylee

Another trainwreck for the Democrats.


3 posted on 05/13/2006 7:50:56 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: ncountylee

Not another 50/50 split vote


4 posted on 05/13/2006 7:51:43 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: ncountylee

Witch.


5 posted on 05/13/2006 7:52:12 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: ncountylee
The only reason the public even acknowledgers her is because of giving her CONSTANT attention. When ever any kind of event happens, that has NOTHING to do with her, the media waits with baited breath for her reaction and or response.
6 posted on 05/13/2006 7:53:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: ncountylee

I’m not concerned about Hillary running—I’m confident she’ll lose. But I am worried about the death and destruction she could perpetrate in her post-defeat fury.


7 posted on 05/13/2006 7:54:37 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Leftists will never stand up like men and fight for their true beliefs.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Neither McCain nor Giuliani can make it out of the primaries.
8 posted on 05/13/2006 7:57:19 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I fully expect the Republicans to decline to contest the 2008 election. No self-respecting person wants to put him/her-self through the trial, tribulation, and torment of George Bush's job. He's the most hated man on earth and the only guy with the backbone to ensure the freedom of a nation replete with ungrateful slobs who undermine his every move against our mortal enemies and blame him for every petty or contrived calamity that befalls us.


9 posted on 05/13/2006 8:01:54 PM PDT by dufekin (If CBS News tells the Truth, then that Truth shall set the terrorists free.)
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To: Uncle Vlad
You are correct.

I predict the nomination will fall to either Romney or Allen, the nominee being the personage the base will be the least uncomfortable with ...

10 posted on 05/13/2006 8:03:27 PM PDT by Babu
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To: sinkspur
Another trainwreck for the Democrats.

I don't know about that. By 2008 there is a good chance that voters will be fed up with the current leadership. Nostalgia for the 1990s will be strong. Hillary will run with Bill at her side every step of the way and outside of the confines of Free Republic, Bill Clinton remains a very well-liked figure.

Hillary only needs to run a "2 for the price of 1" ticket (remember 1992?) and put forth the image that a vote for her is a de facto vote for a 3rd term for her husband. If Bill Clinton could run again in 2008, he would win in a landslide.

11 posted on 05/13/2006 8:04:59 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: ncountylee

Hillary is the best, actually the only, chance the Republicans have to retain the White House.


12 posted on 05/13/2006 8:05:50 PM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: ncountylee
Psssst. Hillary = far left wing dictatorial JUDGES. 100% socialists/communists.

Run, drive, fly to the polls if this beast decides to run, folks.

13 posted on 05/13/2006 8:07:18 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: dufekin
True, but ambition springs eternal. You never have to worry about that.
14 posted on 05/13/2006 8:07:19 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: concerned about politics
If? She's running. More, she is practically already nominated. The sports books will give you 10, 15, 40 to 1 odds on any of the others. She's 3:2. She's going to run and she is going to get the nomination, easily.
15 posted on 05/13/2006 8:09:21 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Drew68
Nostalgia for the 1990s will be strong.

The only reason anybody would want to go back to the 90s is for the economy, and today's economy is stronger than the 90s.

Hillary is despised, and, if she's fooling nobody now, she won't be able to fool anybody then.

She's not much of a speaker. Have you noticed that?

16 posted on 05/13/2006 8:09:33 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: ncountylee
Yawn. About as much here as there was there in the stories about how Hillary would ride in to save the Rats at the DNC in 2004. She can rally the Republican base like no other person, and the moonbats in the Democrats will find some third party to vote for in 2008. Billy Boy only won twice due to a split Republican party.

Not saying that couldn't happen again... Because nothing astounds me more than how well the Republicans can screw their own base, and indeed, mainstream America.
17 posted on 05/13/2006 8:10:01 PM PDT by kingu (Yeah, I'll vote in 2006, just as soon as a party comes along who listens.)
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To: Babu
I predict the nomination will fall to either Romney or Allen

Actually, Romney-Allen or Allen-Romney would make a fine ticket.

18 posted on 05/13/2006 8:13:33 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Jorge
Witch.

Similar sounding. Starts with a B.

What Gingrich's mother said.

19 posted on 05/13/2006 8:17:20 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: sinkspur

And if for once the Republicans do their job right and give the country a refresher course on all her crimes,then she may not only be despised but reviled.


20 posted on 05/13/2006 8:18:20 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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