Water powered cars right around the corner?

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[HEY4QDEMS]

The report says that the US Military is working with the inventor to see if the technology can be employed on the HUM-V.

Hummer IS NOT building with it.

[weezel]

Absoloutely that is true. Diesel engines were originally designed to run on peanut oil. If I owned a diesel, I would be hunting up a buddy who owned a fish camp or something similar, and get myself a source for used grease. I would then make myself a filtering station that could pretty much be left up to gravity to handle the job. As a matter of fact, I'm leaving right now to go buy myself a diesel!

[Sarastro]

Nuclear is a conventional fuel. It produces more than half the electricity in some countries. It is not costless either. It costs a great deal to mine and refine the uranium, to build and maintain the reactor, and to dispose of the waste products (including heat). The advantage of nuclear is that it doesn't produce carbon dioxide.

Converting cars from oil to HHO use would result in a net energy loss (as no energy conversion process is 100% efficient). However, it could — if we got over our nuclear phobia — result in less carbon dioxide emissions and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, reduce our dependence on middle eastern oil.

[Neville72]

Looks like the details aren't as impressive as the video. 22.9% and 100% increases in fuel efficiency are "impressive" to you?

[edwin hubble]

"Hydrogen is one of the most expensive ways of powering a car"

The physics of the electrolysis of water cannot be overcome.

But the economics of large-scale production of hydrogen might be. In March of this year GE announced a price-breakthrough in electrolysis of water into hydrogen.

http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=16523&ch=biztech

Prediction is for a hydrogen cost equivalent to $3/gal gasoline

[Leatherneck_MT]

Mythbusters tried it last week on their show, and busted it flat. You simply cant produce enough hydrogen on board a car, to power the car. Its easy to produce hydrogen, in miniscule amounts, but enough to power a car? Nope.

The video seems to say otherwise

[Gorzaloon]

Jewellers have used electrolytic sources for small oxyhydrogen torches for decades..Given the Prior Art of the "Water torches", the only way this guy is going to get a patent is by a lot of wordcrafting and Billable Hours.

Electrolysis of water uses a LOT of high grade expensive energy. The hydrogen is only a transport medium for a small portion of the energy consumed in its production.

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Allright, I think we have seen enough of this right now.

Every few months I post this advice to potential investors:

If you want to avoid the next Dot.Bomb.Bubble, when you hear these terms, run for your life:

1: Hydrogen "Energy"

2: MEMS

3: "Nano*"

I have worked in R&D all my life, much of it in these areas, including DoE hydrogen programs. (14 patents issued, World and EU crossfiles, and six published applications pending to date.)

[NonValueAdded]

Reminds me of that old joke about the two nuns, a bedpan, and their car by the side of the road.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

However, it could....reduce our dependence on middle eastern oil.

So would drilling in the ANWR.

[bnelson44]

A 22% increase is not the same as saying you are running your car on water. And we don't know the cost of the equipment nor the cost of running it.

[ArcadeQuarters]

The patent office doesn't test inventions. They only make an attempt to ensure that the invention isn't already patented. This guy has a patent on magnetic rings that he claims give eternal life: http://www.alexchiu.com/eternallife/index.html

[KoRn]

"filtered, used cooling oil can be used directly (without having to refine/distill in a reactor) in a diesel car - looks like an older Merz. 300 Diesel was used. I wonder if that's REALLY true."

I actually saw a guy doing this 2 weeks ago. He goes around to all local restaurants who normally pay to get rid of the stuff and takes it off their hands for nothing. He puts it in barrels and told me that he uses it in his truck. He said he had to have conventional diesel to start the truck, and after it was started he could switch over to the home made fuel for driving it. Seems like a clever idea. It isn't a solution though because if everyone did that there wouldn't be enough of a supply of such oil because everyone and their brother would be looking for it.

[saganite]

Hydrogen has much less energy density than gas so even at $3 a gallon equivelant it's still more expensive.

[roaddog727]

"It isn't a solution though because if everyone did that there wouldn't be enough of a supply of such oil because everyone and their brother would be looking for it."

True enough. Supply and demand.

[isthisnickcool]

Check this out.

[Neville72]

A 22% increase is not the same as saying you are running your car on water. And we don't know the cost of the equipment nor the cost of running it.

I'd sure as hell take a 22.9% increase right now regardless of what you called it. How about a 100% increase? Would that "impress" you?

[BB62]

I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY, that I'll sell you in exchange for the royalties off of this product.

Whaddya say??

Sheesh.

Even the Fox26 site looks suspicious.


BB62

[KoRn]

"True enough. Supply and demand."

However, if you are one of a few people in your area who know to do this, you will be saving a small fortune in fuel costs. =)

[RasterMaster]

Looks like it's gone beyond just being a theory and already has working models and test vehicles.

[UNGN]

There are many chemical reactions that will release a large amount of H2. These are not effcient in any way, shape or form (it takes much more energy to make the hydrogen producing compounds than burning the hydrogen or even a fuel cell using hydrogen will even generate).

With the above in mind, in military situations, the ability to have a Hummer operate off hydrogen or be supplemented by Hydrogen makes practical sense.

This has absolutely zero to do with replacing fossil fuels with hydrogen for civilian use or using Hydrogen as an energy source, because it ISN'T one.

The video was beyond misleading, playing on the general public's stupidity about Hydrogen and where it comes from.