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House Permits Pentagon to Assign U.S. Military Along Mexican Border
foxnew.com ^ | 5/12/06 | AP

Posted on 05/12/2006 5:23:29 AM PDT by standingfirm

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is looking at ways the military can help provide more security along the U.S. southern border, defense officials said Thursday, once again drawing the nation's armed forces into a politically sensitive domestic role.

On Capitol Hill on Thursday, the House voted 252-171 to allow Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to assign military personnel under certain circumstances to help the Homeland Security Department perform border security. The House added the provision to a larger military measure.

Paul McHale, the assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense, asked officials this week to come up with options for the use of military resources and troops — particularly the National Guard — along the border with Mexico, according to defense officials familiar with the discussions. The officials, who requested anonymity because the matter has not been made public, said there are no details yet on a defense strategy.

The request comes as some Southern lawmakers met this week with White House strategist Karl Rove for a discussion that included making greater use of National Guard troops to shore up border control. Congress is

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TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; military; nationalguard
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To: spectre

I will apologize, but don't call me girl. Please understand how tedious all this self-important posturing is, especially first thing in the morning.


61 posted on 05/12/2006 6:48:11 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

FoxNews reported that Bush asked Rummy to find a Constitutional way to do this. If the Prez did NOT want it done, it would NOT be done. BTW, Bush is CIC, NOT the House!

LLS


62 posted on 05/12/2006 6:51:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: ConsentofGoverned; politeia
He is putting the rope of impeachment around his own neck

You should have seen the 'bots rush in with threats of banning when I posited that scenario a few weeks ago. The grand irony is that with a Dem majority, he will be impeached not over immigration, but over what conservatives generally support ie the WoT.

Either way, the effect is the same.

63 posted on 05/12/2006 6:53:33 AM PDT by lemura
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To: ConsentofGoverned
BTW, I don't owe you jack! I already did respond to another poster. FoxNews reported that Bush asked Rummy to work out a Constitutional way to achieve this. Bush is CIC not the House. You are a prime example of a "black cloud" Conservative!

LLS
64 posted on 05/12/2006 6:54:14 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Redleg Duke

It is sad. "Black Cloud" Conservatives!

LLS


65 posted on 05/12/2006 6:55:35 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
". FoxNews reported that Bush asked Rummy to work out a Constitutional way to achieve this. Bush is CIC not the House. You are a prime example of a "black cloud" Conservative!"
>>>>>>>>>>>...........
I hope you and FOX news are right, and yes I must admit I have been very negative the last 12 months about Bush's inaction on the border and seeming encouraging of more illegals to come here. guilty on that count.
66 posted on 05/12/2006 6:57:22 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: stopem

I am ONE OF YOU, NOT one of THEM! Patriots KNOW who "THEY" are!

LLS


67 posted on 05/12/2006 6:58:12 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: standingfirm

If you actually read posse comitatus, I don't see how any interpretation could lead to anything but....the founders wanted to insure that the military was not used against U.S. citizens.
It says that the military cannot be used within the borders unless it is for a Constitutional purpose. Defending our borders from an invasion is definitely Constitutional and the President's job first and foremost.
Of course every lib lawyer out there would argue otherwise.


68 posted on 05/12/2006 7:02:30 AM PDT by sheana
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To: ClaireSolt
Apology accepted :)

It's not posturing on my part, I'm dead serious about Bush saving himself and the GOP, and the Illegal Immigration issue is killing us.

Good news, President Bush is going to address the Nation at 8pm Eastern Time on Illegal Immigration!

sw

69 posted on 05/12/2006 7:06:34 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ("Woe to those who call evil good")
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To: spectre

yeah but you can be sure that his speech will include "guest worker program", "jobs that Americans won't do", etc.
That tells me he is still insincere regardless of what show he puts on.
Massive interior enforcement is the key not amnesty.


70 posted on 05/12/2006 7:13:35 AM PDT by sheana
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To: standingfirm
Hope restoring news. I needed this.

It's a start, but there is still a lot to be done.

71 posted on 05/12/2006 7:17:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: sheana

This speech has all the markings of the new Tony Snow initiatives. Unfortunately, as evidenced on these Freeper threads, Tony Snow is even more invested in the amnesty pitch than George Bush.

As a result, don't expect any change of heart in this speech, just the usual oozing-with-compassion nonsense about family-value (illegal) immigrants and work Americans won't do.

One word wou wont't hear is "amnesty" unless it is cloaked in a phrase like "this is not amnesty".


72 posted on 05/12/2006 7:41:40 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: LibLieSlayer

The "Earthquake McGoons" of the Republican Party.


73 posted on 05/12/2006 8:06:05 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: mlc9852

In Mexico, if you jay walk, and then if you run from a cop, it is considered an automatic admission of guilt, and that Mexican cop WILL put a .45 bullet right in your X-ring. No hesitation, no recourse, no repercussions for the cop. It's called the Law of Flight. Do you want Mexican law here? One of the nice things about a bullet is that it is no respecter of race, creed, color, age, national origin or sexual preference.


74 posted on 05/12/2006 8:08:34 AM PDT by jonascord ("Republic. I like the sound of the word...")
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To: oldbill
You CAN'T just put the National Guard on the borders as a federal force - it is against the law.

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer".
Henry Kissinger, New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973

75 posted on 05/12/2006 8:12:13 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: jonascord

I don't think we should give illegals the death penalty, if that is what you are asking.


76 posted on 05/12/2006 8:18:09 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: standingfirm

twety years too late...horse...barn...
well lets just see how many troops are actually deployed to the borders


77 posted on 05/12/2006 9:24:22 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


78 posted on 05/12/2006 9:52:13 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: standingfirm
The request comes as some Southern lawmakers met this week with White House strategist Karl Rove for a discussion that included making greater use of National Guard troops to shore up border control. Congress is poised to pass legislation this month that would call for additional border security, a new guest worker program and provisions opening the way to eventual citizenship for many of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country.

And what about TONY SNOW, he knows oh too well how folks are feeling about border security and all these bleeping illegals?

79 posted on 05/12/2006 9:53:30 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: TexasTransplant; oldbill
I concur with your comments.

Moreover, assigning combat units to this non-combat role would be ill-advised. After the Bosnia adventure, the participating combat units had to relearn their trade craft all over again.

80 posted on 05/12/2006 10:06:00 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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