[The Shootist]

I wonder if you'd be so quick to declare that evolution had "collapsed" if the same judge had ruled the other way.

Let me see if I can keep it simple. Evolution is based on facts as they are understood. Creative design is based on faith which cannot be understood.

[Elpasser]

Look at the intricate design all around you. Do you realize, for example, that a bat's sonar is so sophisticated that we don't fully understand its mechanism? Evolution says this is a random mutation -- from inorganic matter to boot.

There is none so blind as he who will not see.