George Allen's Race Problem - Pin Prick

The New Republic ^ | 4/28/06

[Corin Stormhands]

But I'd rather see a someone not afraid to buck the system Newt, Pence or Rudy.

At least your ideology is consistent...Sheesh!

[EternalVigilance]

Because I don't see the "squishiness" and I am not an ideologue like you.

Yeah, can't have them dang 'ideals' getting in the way, can we now...

[EternalVigilance]

I have no idea what adhering to the "conservative Reagan platform" means. An oath of fealty? LOL

Of course you don't. But prolife leaders across American know exactly what it means. And the leaders of the party had better not forget.

[EternalVigilance]

"The difference between us is that I am not smug, self-important, and delusional." he said smugly.

[Corin Stormhands]

Your #230 only presents a small portion of events and the facts, and is therefore an untruth.

Ah, so the check ~did~ clear. Now, if you'd only tell us who wrote it, we'll be a lot further along.

It's going to be a long two years EV and I'm not going to spend it playing your silly little games.

So, if you can, find yourself a candidate and tell us why you support him/her. But, if the only way you can build up your candidate is to try to tear down and distort (yes, I said distort) the record of another, you're not going to get very far.

[EternalVigilance]

Add irrational and nonsensical to the list. So now there is a Nazi wing of the Republican Party. The objective of elections is to win them. You can have principles but not be dogmatic to the point that you lose the election by narrowing your constituency. You are the one demanding ideological purity and adherence to the Master platform.

Wrong. I'm demanding that the potential nominee meet the basic criteria for one that aspires to lead the Republican coalition...that he himself holds closely the closely-held beliefs of the vast majority of that coalition.

Phonies need not apply.

[EternalVigilance]

Add one issue and litmus test to the list. Are you satisfied with Bush 41 and 43 positions on abortion? Dole's?

The elder Bush's phoniness on abortion is well-known. It's one of the reasons he couldn't hold the Reagan coalition together through reelection.

Dole is what we want to avoid in a candidate...which is a strong reason to oppose G.A.

[EternalVigilance]

George Allen's ACU rating in 2005 is 100%. In 2004 it was 92. Lifetime 92. George Allen is a conservative. Case closed.

For you, obviously. But what about those pesky facts surrounding his weird, nonconservative, views vis a vis abortion, the borders, and gays?

For many of us, the case is NOT closed, sorry.

[EternalVigilance]

Go back to your cave and sit this one out.

Liberals love to call conservatives knuckle-dragging Neanderthals, don't they.

I don't sit out elections that affect the future of my children and grandchildren.

[EternalVigilance]

George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.

[kabar]

For you, obviously. But what about those pesky facts surrounding his weird, nonconservative, views vis a vis abortion, the borders, and gays? For many of us, the case is NOT closed, sorry.

LOL. You are up to three issues now. I have no problem with Allen's positions on these issues. I like them better than Bush's, who by your definition, is also not a conservative. Sieg Heil!!

[EternalVigilance]

Hey, I think that should be a new tagline...

[EternalVigilance]

You are up to three issues now.

You're the one-ssue guy here.

It's obvious from your posts that the one thing you care about is nominating George Allen.

That's your 'single-issue'.

[kabar]

Liberals love to call conservatives knuckle-dragging Neanderthals, don't they. I don't sit out elections that affect the future of my children and grandchildren.

Lucky I am a conservative and don't call my fellow conservatives such names. You will sit out this election if McCain, Allen, Giuliani, Romney, or Rice is the nominee. Are you going to vote for the Dems or a third party? Better to sit it out and wait for another four years to see if your Prince will come.

[kabar]

It's obvious from your posts that the one thing you care about is nominating George Allen. That's your 'single-issue'.

I will say it again even more slowly. I will vote for the Republican nominee regardless of who it is. I like George Allen and will support his nomintion, but I am not going cut off my nose to spite my face by voting for a dem, a third party, or sit out the election.

[EternalVigilance]

I will say it again even more slowly. I will vote for the Republican nominee regardless of who it is.

Of course you will. You'd vote for Bill Clinton if he were the Republican nominee. And dang, why not! He's more conservative than at least one of your RINO picks!

[kabar]

Wrong. I'm demanding that the potential nominee meet the basic criteria for one that aspires to lead the Republican coalition...that he himself holds closely the closely-held beliefs of the vast majority of that coalition. Phonies need not apply.

That's why we have primaries. If Allen doesn't represent the "closely-held beliefs of the vast majority of that coalition," then he will lose. The successful candidate will win and deserves our support. Since you are not part of the Republican base, you might have a hard time with that concept.

[EternalVigilance]

Since you are not part of the Republican base, you might have a hard time with that concept.

You have a hard time with the concept of telling the truth.

[kabar]

The elder Bush's phoniness on abortion is well-known. It's one of the reasons he couldn't hold the Reagan coalition together through reelection. Dole is what we want to avoid in a candidate...which is a strong reason to oppose G.A.

Didn't you state, "pro-lifers still have a virtual veto when it comes to nominating a Presidential candidate." How come no veto?

[EternalVigilance]

Didn't you state, "pro-lifers still have a virtual veto when it comes to nominating a Presidential candidate." How come no veto?

Because they lied successfully, as George Allen is trying to do now.

Might not work so well now that there is an internet...