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That was the socialist (from all parties) MEPs take on the issue. The same data (apparently) was given another interpretation by the Commissioner de Vries a few days ago:

EU terror chief lacks proof of CIA prisons

and this:

EU official: No evidence of illegal CIA action

de Vries' statement in the latter article goes counter to yesterdays revelation:

De Vries told the committee no EU-US agreement authorized secret renditions of terror suspects, that hundreds of CIA flights did not occur over Europe as reported by various media organizations, and that he has no news of European countries using intelligence obtained under torture.

However, in the Boston Globe article (as well as in another article on the EUobserver site) the words of former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray is related:

[He] was fired after alleging Britain knowingly received intelligence extracted under torture, [and he] repeated his allegations to the committee yesterday. He said the British foreign service had confirmed to him that Britain had such a policy.

Maybe so, but he did say something else also, which can be found (only?) in the Herald Tribune article:

But Craig Murray, who was recalled from his job in 2004 after condemning the Uzbek authorities and criticizing the British and American governments, told the committee that he had no proof that detention centers existed within Europe.

He said he had witnessed such rendition programs in Uzbekistan, but he seemed to back up de Vries's assertion when he said he was not aware of anyone being brought to Uzbekistan from Europe.

"As far as I know, that never happened," he said.

While he was ambassador, Murray made many public statements condemning the regime of President Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan for its human rights record. At the time, Washington was using Uzbekistan as a base for U.S. operations in Afghanistan after the Sept. 11 attacks. Murray, who has been criticized by Foreign Secretary Jack Straw of Britain for breaching diplomatic protocol, has written an account of his experiences called "Murder in Samarkand" that is to be made into a film by the British director Michael Winterbottom.

Murray said that Washington and London used intelligence extracted by torture in countries ranging from Syria to Morocco, but that American and European officials did not conduct the torture themselves.

My, my, film contract and all...

Anyway - to finish off this post, just a point about Sweden.

Yes, two Egyptians were released to American authorities by the Swedish government in 2001. (By that icon of the left, the late Ms Lindh, no less.) How that can be called an abduction is beyond me, but then so much that goes on in the Toy Parliament in Brussels is beyond my meager comprehension.

1 posted on 04/27/2006 2:49:39 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy
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Some background info.


2 posted on 04/27/2006 3:06:49 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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Actually, it was 700,000,000,000,000,,,,but who's counting?


3 posted on 04/27/2006 3:13:16 AM PDT by Waco
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To: ScaniaBoy

Blah, blah, blah. Creep, crawl, creep, crawl. There are a great many in Europe and the US both for whom the abject position - on the belly - with regard to the Moslems is mandated for all until civilization is extinct.

Pardon us, Brussels, while we save your bacon for you. No thanks needed (and none expected).


4 posted on 04/27/2006 3:13:35 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: ScaniaBoy

The CIA is making all these secret flights in the middle of a fuel shortage? I smell a CONSPIRACY!!! (Do I really need the /sarcasm tag?)


5 posted on 04/27/2006 3:22:28 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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"The CIA has, on several occasions, clearly been responsible for kidnapping and illegally detaining alleged terrorists on the territory of member states"

Good to know hope they keep on doing it if i ever meet one i'll buy em a drink !

7 posted on 04/27/2006 3:30:48 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds." -- Albert Einstein)
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To: ScaniaBoy
..Socialist MEP and the committee's rapporteur, Claudio Fava,told reporters in Brussels.

"Fava went on to say that he believes that George W Bush,Reagan and Nixon are the three most dangerous men to ever walk the earth..."

10 posted on 04/27/2006 4:30:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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And when a nuke or chemical weapon is used on a major city the libs will cry "WHERE WAS THE CIA?!!!" "Why didnt the CIA stop this???"

Personally, I'm glad to see the CIA getting some activity going.


12 posted on 04/27/2006 4:38:38 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: ScaniaBoy

I'm glad to see they're taking time out from their efforts to thwart the Admin. Carry On!


14 posted on 04/27/2006 4:41:29 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: ScaniaBoy

I don't mind the CIA flying over Europe. It's not dropping bombs on the Socialists that I mind.

Regards, Ivan


15 posted on 04/27/2006 4:42:18 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Read the article, pure speculation.

Hey but create HATE AMERICA news SELLS europeeon fish wraps.


16 posted on 04/27/2006 4:55:06 AM PDT by funkywbr
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Really getting hard to distinguish the supposed 'civilized' from the uncivilized terror killers. There is a sense of paranoia and a paralyzing fear permeating out of liberalville, makes one wonder who is at risk of getting "snatched" and/or caught on the phone with known terrorists.

This war has long since left the face of homicide bombers and appears to have a global liberal face to it.
17 posted on 04/27/2006 4:56:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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So?


18 posted on 04/27/2006 5:32:26 AM PDT by onedoug
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