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French navy loses multi-million-dollar sonar at sea
Agence France Presse ^ | April 19, 2006 | AFP

Posted on 04/19/2006 8:44:57 AM PDT by inkling

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To: Oztrich Boy
Yeppers. I'm afraid that white thingy with wings ain't there no mo.

It's actually pretty easy to lose a towed array if you deploy it in adverse sea conditions. That's why they have winches.

41 posted on 04/19/2006 9:10:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: inkling
CIA Factbook on France

(slightly edited)

42 posted on 04/19/2006 9:10:14 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: lilylangtree
Then there was the NASA Mars Climate Orbiter imperial and metric units mixup:

The flight software installed on the spacecraft correctly computed the velocity change and transmitted it to earth. The ground software, however, was originally written for the Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) mission, and the MGS flight software did not compute nor transmit velocity change information. The ground software, then, discarded the transmitted velocity change and recomputed it. Since the Mars Climate orbiter used a differently-sized thruster than Mars Global Surveyor, an update to the thruster equation in the ground software was necessary. The conversion factor from pound-seconds to newton-seconds was buried in the original equation and not immediately identifiable, and so it was not included in the updated equation. Thus, the ground software reported calculated "impulse bits" which were a factor of 4.45 too large (1 pound force = 4.45 newtons). Subsequent processing of the calculated impulse bit values from the AMD file by the navigation software underestimated the effect of the thruster firings on the spacecraft trajectory by this factor.

43 posted on 04/19/2006 9:10:38 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: inkling

They were probably trying to find the propeller that fell off their aircraft carrier.


44 posted on 04/19/2006 9:10:58 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: inkling

Anyone remember the Charles DeGaulle losing a prop on its maiden voyage?


45 posted on 04/19/2006 9:11:16 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: SlowBoat407

Thanks for the clarification. I remembered it was something to do with the mirrors but I didn't recall exactly what.


46 posted on 04/19/2006 9:13:55 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Speaking as one who has been thru many hurricanes, If you put something over the side in a storm, and expect it to stay connected, you are an idiot!.........Sacre Bleu! Ze rope! She is broke!.........


47 posted on 04/19/2006 9:15:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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To: Plutarch

Bet it took billions from to start to finish to correct the problem, huh?


48 posted on 04/19/2006 9:15:22 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: inkling
Did someone say French navy?


49 posted on 04/19/2006 9:17:47 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: SlowBoat407

LOL yup. "We've ground several mirrors to the same specification for Keyhole satellites...whoops."


50 posted on 04/19/2006 9:18:05 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: inkling

M*rde alors!


51 posted on 04/19/2006 9:18:54 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: inkling
The French navy made a red-faced admission that it had lost a multi-million dollar sonar navigation device after its cable ripped in stormy waters.

Le Canard Enchaine reported that the captain of the De Grasse frigate, decided against his lieutenants' advice to try out the 10-tonne sonar in rough seas

I know this is from France, does it make sense to anyone?

It was lost in stormy seas, but the captain had ordered it not be tested in stormy seas.

Poor reporting? A cover up by the Captain and/or Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie? A mutiny at sea?

52 posted on 04/19/2006 9:20:39 AM PDT by RJL
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To: dighton
Now, landsmen all, whoever you may be
If you want to rise to the top of the tree
If your soul isn't fettered to an office stool
Be careful to be guided by this golden rule
Stick close to your desks and never go to sea
And you all may be Rulers of the Queen's Navy

53 posted on 04/19/2006 9:21:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: r9etb
Chief Budge: [Queeg is distracted while the Caine is turning] Hey, Meatball! Am I seein' things or are we about to run over our own tow line!

Meatball: That's crazy; we can't be... we are about to run over our own tow line! What are they doin' up there?

54 posted on 04/19/2006 9:22:30 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Doohickey; SmithL; IonImplantGuru
Avoid the Gulf of Gascony.

Proceed undetected.
55 posted on 04/19/2006 9:25:03 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: Plutarch

Link, source? With writing this turbid, it's not surprising things like that were overlooked.


56 posted on 04/19/2006 9:27:12 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: BIGLOOK

Ever done ops with the Frog Navy?

They're funny.


57 posted on 04/19/2006 9:35:34 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Link, source?

Mars Climate Explorer

58 posted on 04/19/2006 9:39:33 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: inkling

Why is the first thing I thought of after reading the headline for this, is the video of The Village People singing "In The Navy"?

The Village People and the French "Navy" just seem to go together. Well, them and Inspector Clouseau.


59 posted on 04/19/2006 9:39:53 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: Oztrich Boy
may not have all accessories shown in illustration

Well, not now, no.

60 posted on 04/19/2006 9:47:05 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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