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Many Mexicans Have Jobs Before Crossing
ap ^ | 4.15.06 | Julie Watson and Olga R. Rodriguez

Posted on 04/15/2006 11:15:11 AM PDT by Flavius

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His future employer even paid $1,000 for a smuggler to help Vazquez make his way from the central Mexican city of Puebla to Aspen, Colo.

This was going on back in the 90s. Vail, Aspen, Beaver Creek, Steamboat, Edwards, Avon, et al were crawling with illegal aliens. Now they are all over the front range too "doing the jobs that Americans won't do" in the trades for a hell of a lot less money.

21 posted on 04/15/2006 11:45:49 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Flavius

And the corruption just spreads, until we will be little better than Mexico. I wonder how long it will be before I can bribe my way out of a parking ticket?


22 posted on 04/15/2006 11:46:07 AM PDT by tertiary01 (May 1st-- PINKO DE MAYO shop til you drop)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

What are the trades from hell? I'll bet most were considered proper employment a generation ago.


23 posted on 04/15/2006 11:48:11 AM PDT by tertiary01 (May 1st-- PINKO DE MAYO shop til you drop)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Forget my comment I misread your post.
24 posted on 04/15/2006 11:50:53 AM PDT by tertiary01 (May 1st-- PINKO DE MAYO shop til you drop)
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To: tertiary01
And the corruption just spreads, until we will be little better than Mexico.

Yep, but the life of the elites who are promoting this lower standard of living will see little change in their lifestyles.

25 posted on 04/15/2006 11:58:03 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Flavius

About thirty years ago one of my sons drove a taxi for a while. Teenagers delight because he could stay up all night and drive as much as he wanted. He and several of his fellow drivers had an arrangement with a business north of Houston. They would pick up a taxi load of "workers" southwest of town and deliver them to the business, pick up load and return them to the southwest location. They had some means of getting back and forth between Mexico and the southwest location. That business, and others, may be still doing the import/export of labor.


26 posted on 04/15/2006 11:58:32 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Moonman62

They will become prisoners behind their walls as they are rapidly getting rid any country that would give them respite from lawlessness and corruption. Right now the US is one of their last refuges.


27 posted on 04/15/2006 12:13:53 PM PDT by tertiary01 (May 1st-- PINKO DE MAYO shop til you drop)
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To make a real dent in this network, the U.S. government would need to go after employers or make them pay the costs of legalizing workers, migration activists say.

After closing the border and hefting big fees to wire money to Mexico, and fining the employers who employ illegals. Now it is worded correctly.

28 posted on 04/15/2006 12:16:42 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Buy Danish!)
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To: NormsRevenge

"His future employer even paid $1,000 for a smuggler to help Vazquez make his way from the central Mexican city of Puebla to Aspen, Colo."

Where's the profit for employer if he pays out $1000 for workers? gets arrested for conspiracy in smuggling or illegal decides to take off for parts unknown, has communicable disease, is criminal and murders him?

Could it be employer plans not to list costs on Income Tax but lie about income? Could it be illegals are being used for jobs like "crime", human sex trafficking?? Just Wondering. Also wondering why unions are taking so long to take a Public Stand. SEIU, are these jobs US citizens are not given opportunity to apply for. Maybe the isssue is "jobs legal mexicans won't do"? Just Wondering?


29 posted on 04/15/2006 12:19:28 PM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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Now they are all over the front range too "doing the jobs that Americans won't do" in the trades for a hell of a lot less money.

Tell me about it..........

My husband spent 25 years in construction, he's out of it now, but we still do the majority of our own work. We're currently reroofing and siding our house - it's been amazing how many able bodied young AMERICAN men have stopped by when they've seen us outside working, looking for work - because the local contractors are hiring illegals at lower rates than they were previously paying these guys.

I've actually had a couple stop when I've been out hoeing my field looking for work.........yup, jobs Americans won't do, my foot.

30 posted on 04/15/2006 12:37:54 PM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: tertiary01

The elites in Mexico are doing pretty well, and that's the point, we are becoming more like them.


31 posted on 04/15/2006 12:42:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Flavius

They will be street corner auctions before long, oh wait there are already daily auctions at Home Depot now.


32 posted on 04/15/2006 1:27:22 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: Flavius

Like I said on many other posts, the Mexicans aren`t French. They are a plus to the USA, they produce $$$ and they produce by BS&T (Blood sweat and tears)and are right next to us. They are the abused child who wants a new family.

Illegal immigration will never be solved down there without extreme measures and lots of $$$..If Bush went hardcore on their arses expect Hillary to be next POTUS because the Rats will do evrything in their power to make Bush seem like Hitler expelling (or exterminating) the Jews. Look at them already comparing it to the civil rights in the 1960`s, and we are only just debating!

To me, the best offense is absolute and total destructive revenge. That money required to beef up border protection could be spent in a better way...The solution is to annex Mexico, make it a commonwealth, if it was up to me, a state... Why? Because it would absolutely destroy liberals, destroy the Democrat party and to me that is well worth every cent.

The majority of Mexicans are hard core religious conservatives, ask any Mexican if he supports gay marriage and see what he says. We should spend the bucks, root out the corruption down there, take over their oil production and tell Ted Kennedy what he can do with his "civil rights of illegals". I mean my God, can you imagine this happening in the 1700`s? Thomas Jefferson would have had an orgasm, you got an entire country attached to mainland USA absolutely begging to be taken over.

This is what Republicans should be concentrating on. Yes of course illegals break US laws and take jobs, but this would stop if they were absorbed. The only problem is getting people to accept another state. I mean think of it this way; We got Alaska and Hawaii which are in outerspace from the mainland.. Why not Mexico? All we`d have to deal with is Guatemala which has a border 1/3rd if not less than that of Mexico. Just think of this happening while Bush is in office. Democrats would go the way of the Whigs, they would cease to exist. I worked with Mexicans for 3 years when me and a friend started our own landscaping biz out on Long Island.

To Mexicans, someone who doesn`t work, and doesn`t work ball bustin` HARD is a what they would call "Panosha"...A "pussy". They are the EXACT opposite of the French. Socialism, liberalism, is the utimate insult to them and what liberals in this country are starting to do, is doing what they do to blacks: "We are on your side...If you vote for us we will fight the evil Republicans who are against you". By annexing Mexico right now, Democrats would be blown to pieces.


33 posted on 04/15/2006 1:57:58 PM PDT by Screamname (By God, pray for me, someone help me please! Hillary is my Senator! HELP MEEE!)
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"more and more U.S. companies in need of cheap labor are turning to undocumented employees to recruit friends and relatives back home, and to smugglers to find job seekers.

Traitors,they need to be fined, illegal employers hiring illegal workers, great isn't that so American? BS! They can get away with not paying taxes? The employer doesn't pay and the worker doesn't pay yet here we are citizens paying. Think of that on monday as you rush to obey the law and are waiting in line to get your payment to IRS!

34 posted on 04/15/2006 1:58:25 PM PDT by stopem (Happy Easter, He Has Risen! Allelujia!)
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To: Flavius

"After the Sept. 11 attacks, work-site inspections by U.S. immigration officials plummeted as they focused on national security cases."

It plummeted from almost zero to zero.

It is wrong to say illegals live in the "shodows." They live in the open, knowing they can safely stay, because nothing short of serious crime is in their way.

The employers are their friends, as are government help agencies, schools, etc.

Even if you commit a crime, do jail, chances are release will be inside the US, not deportation.

The resources for "total" immigration enforcement have never been even tried.


35 posted on 04/15/2006 1:59:53 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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Shan Wei Yu, a 51-year-old Chinese-American, was sentenced in December to nine years in federal prison on charges involving the transportation of 40 of those migrants.

See how the problem has metastasized?

Now we don't simply import people, no:

We import Chinese people to import Mexican people, who import other Mexican people.

It's like the story last week about that kidnapped Korean guy in Tijuana, who later got loose.

In that case, we imported a Korean to live in San Diego to manufacture Korean car parts in Mexico employing Mexicans to export to Americans, whose only role would be to simply buy the foreign cheap crap.

It is not like we've been reduced to the status of an unproductive drug-user, no. Now we're a drug-user who employs some slave to tie Master off, and inject Master.

It's freaking SICK.

36 posted on 04/15/2006 2:00:16 PM PDT by gaijin
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And OUR government thinks it would be too hard to track down the people that knowing employ illegals.

This is incredible. Has anyone from that state reported them to Immigration so they can be fined?


37 posted on 04/15/2006 2:04:15 PM PDT by ears_to_hear ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see. ")
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To: HiJinx

ping


38 posted on 04/15/2006 2:05:38 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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No, sadly he really is not. He is doing the job on immigration that he means to do.

Exactly, the "new world order" demands that the US become a 3rd world nation

But he is not alone, this is an all out assault on America by all the politically connected of both parties

39 posted on 04/15/2006 2:07:07 PM PDT by ears_to_hear ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see. ")
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To: Red6

If you're going to put a word in all caps four times in a post, you should check the spelling first.


40 posted on 04/15/2006 2:07:11 PM PDT by xjcsa (You can't spell "Mohammed" without "ham"...)
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