George Allen for President? (vanity)

http://www.georgeallen.com/site/c.hgITL5PKJtH/b.1434575/k.BEAC/Home.htm ^

[atomic_dog]

Accoding to Americans for Better Immigration there are 19 Seantors with better records on immigration. The list:

A
Vitter, David (R-LA) - 94%
Bunning, Jim (R-KY) - 90%
Sessions, Jeff (R-AL) - 90%

A-
Chambliss, Saxby (R-GA) - 86%
Shelby, Richard (R-AL) - 86%

B+
Talent, James (R-MO) - 85%
Coburn, Tom (R-OK) - 84%
Inhofe, James (R-OK) - 84%
Roberts, Pat (R-KS) - 84%
Kyl, Jon (R-AZ) - 83%
Thomas, Craig (R-WY) - 82%

B
Burr, Richard (R-NC) - 80%
Grassley, Charles (R-IA) - 79%
Isakson, Johnny (R-GA) - 78%
Crapo, Michael (R-ID) - 73%
DeMint, James (R-SC) - 73%

B-
Graham, Lindsey (R-SC) - 67%
Thune, John (R-SD) - 67%
Craig, Larry (R-ID) - 61%

C+

Allen, George (R-VA) - 58%
Sununu, John (R-NH) - 57%

[Oliver Optic]

SEN. ALLEN: I think Roe v. Wade has been interpreted in such a way that it precludes the rights of the people to decide their laws.

Music to my ears.

Thanks for the post, area51 ... don't think I've ever read that exchange.

[stevem]

Richard Nixon was an ultra-liberal who ran as a conservative. IMHO, he fooled the electorate, particularly Republicans that elected him. The thing of it is is the Republican Party in those days was just starting to get its conservative bearing.

I don't know much about polls and professional politics and so forth. Still, these days, I don't think a Republican has much of a chance if the conservatives all stay home. I like George Allen as I have thought he was (is) a genuine conservative. If his record makes him out to be a liberal, he won't survive an internet backlash. I think he is smart enough to know that. We shall see.

[Beagle8U]

"He's my favorite of the "realistic" candidates. Tancredo obviously is not going to be elected."

That quote from you was supposed to be in my last post, ie "very reasoned".

Don't understand what happened in my last post, it didn't come out as printed before I clicked "send" ??

[Mayflower Sister]

I heard George Allen address the issue of illegal immigration just last week and he stated that he is opposed to any amnesty>

They all SAY that... they carefully call it "earned citizenship" or a "path to citizenship".

If he will make border enforcement a priority, I just may vote for him.

[areafiftyone]

He's not up for overturning it completely - he actually wants it to be up to each state. Personally I would probably not vote for him in the primary but if he won the primary and was picked as our nominee I would of course vote for him. I'm not a big fan of George Allen but everyone here knows that. I think he's been built up into something he really isn't by conservatives who seem to want another Ronald Reagan. I loved Reagan but Allen is definitely NO REAGAN. I think if he runs for president he's not going to win. But I will vote for him if he wins the primary. I don't want to waste my vote.

[be4everfree]

His father taught him well

[Corin Stormhands]

He's not up for overturning it completely - he actually wants it to be up to each state.

That's his philosophy on government as a whole. Not just Roe v. Wade.

[Oliver Optic]

He's not up for overturning it completely - he actually wants it to be up to each state.

If he wants it to be up to each state, he's going to have to appoint justices who will overturn Roe.

That's why it was music to my ears.

He's by no means the conservative dream candidate, but right now he looks like the pick of the litter.

[alloysteel]

But not only "just" a Senator. He has the further experience of having been a state governor (Virginia) and carrying a name already known by football fans (his father was Hall of Fame Redskins coach George Allen the elder).

And being branded early on as "dim-witted" by Dem'crat opinion shapers puts him in pretty good company, right along with Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and the Presidents Bush 41 and 43. For you see, being cited as less than the sharpest knife in the drawer by the MSM is tantamont to their admission that you are a heckuva smarter than they are willing to grant. Their codewords.

[beeler]

Yeah, I was excited about Allen at first, but unfortunately, it turns out he's just another RINO. Yet another name to add to the list of candidates who would ultimately result in a backlash from the base. These RINO enablers on FR and elsewhere need to get that through their thick heads. We need a conservative, plain and simple. That's all we'll accept.

[fredhead]

I didn't say elected from, I said born in. Like Andrew Jackson and Andrew Johnson, both were born in NC, but were elected from TN.

[Corin Stormhands]

Allen wasn't born in Virginia.

[linda_22003]

I know, and mentioned that before. He'd be the second president born in Whittier, California.

[Corin Stormhands]

Right.

[Alberta's Child]

Do you have any evidence to suggest that Rudy Giuliani would have voted any differently on any of those bills if he were a U.S. Senator?

[Old_Mil]

There is NOBODY perfect enough for you, right? so you gonna elect a Dem?

I would support Mike Pence or Tom Tancredo. As far as my electing a Dem, no I'm not - unless you're going to elect a Dem by nominating a liberal Republican.

[okie01]

He's still a senator, and in my book that's two strikes against him.

However, before he was a senator, he was term-limited out as governor.

Allen has the requisite executive experience.

[Old_Mil]

Interesting that you quote the Washington Blade. But the information is correct. That article is from April of 2004

Those are just the results of a google search, the fastest reference I had to post information I knew was correct. CWA I recommend as a general source, the Washington Blade was merely for this one reference as I haven't vetted the site.

The bottom line is that Allen has waffled on pro-life issues, on gay-agenda issues, and is not opposed to granting an amnesty to illegal aliens.

I won't vote for such a candidate.

[muleskinner]

...And being branded early on as "dim-witted" by Dem'crat opinion shapers...

I haven't heard anything from dem'crat opinion makers about Allen's intellect, but I have heard from Freeper's about his less than stellar debating skills. I've seen him on a few Sunday talk shows and, unfortunately, he gets waxed consistently.