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400 terror suspects on loose in UK
The Sunday Times ^ | April 09, 2006 | David Leppard

Posted on 04/09/2006 1:11:56 AM PDT by M. Espinola

AT LEAST 400 Al-Qaeda terrorist suspects — double the previous estimates — are at large in Britain, according to police and MI5.

Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, director-general of MI5, has said the figure could be as high as 600 if all those thought to have returned from combat training in camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere are included.

The new assessment — effectively a “terror audit” of Britain — was confirmed this weekend by one of Britain’s most senior police officers, who warned that shortages of trained surveillance teams were undermining attempts to monitor all the suspects.

“With about 400 terrorist suspects it requires a great deal of resources to investigate them,” said James Hart, police commissioner of the City of London, a prime Al-Qaeda target. “It’s impossible. You simply have to make intelligent guesses about who to watch. It’s a bit of a lottery.”

Hart’s words carry weight because he helped co-ordinate the response to last July’s terror attacks in London. He is also on a committee of security chiefs responsible for protecting the capital from future attacks.

The figure of 400 has emerged from a reassessment by MI5 of the terrorist threat after the July 7 suicide bombings, which killed 52 innocent people. It is double the number of suspects that Lord Stevens, the former Metropolitan police commissioner, said last year were potentially able to carry out attacks in Britain.

The Joint Intelligence Committee of security chiefs has already warned that Al-Qaeda’s campaign against Britain and other western countries has been “energised” by the war in Iraq. Police chiefs now believe this will last at least 20 years.

Officials say the 400 include a “hard core” of between 40 and 60 trained fighters with the capability and the intention to carry out attacks in Britain.

There are other Islamic extremists “around the edges” of the 400 who could become active terrorists at any point. MI5 has already admitted it failed to follow up evidence that the July 7 ringleader Mohammed Siddiqui Khan was involved on the fringes of a terrorist plot.

In addition, MI5 has drawn up a “thermal map” of terror hotspots across Britain. The threat is said to be particularly acute in the Manchester area, where police have disclosed that several suspected would-be suicide bombers have been stopped at the airport en route for Iraq.

MI5 has received funds to open offices in Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Birmingham and Glasgow with others planned for Wales and the southwest.

But police say they are being hindered by lack of money. Hart said: “Discussions are going on about how more resources can be put into this project. There is not enough money being put into this. We should be doing much more. We are talking about the safety of the United Kingdom.”

Hart’s comments were backed by opposition MPs. Patrick Mercer, Tory spokesman for homeland security, said the government should act straight away to increase funding for counter-terrorism.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaeda; alqaedauk; birmingham; britain; england; glasgow; iraq; islamic; jihad; jihadineurope; leeds; liverpool; london; lordstevens; manchester; mi5; muslims; pakistan; patrickmercer; pickemupthrowemout; wales
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The “terror audit” needs to translate into a roundup.
1 posted on 04/09/2006 1:12:04 AM PDT by M. Espinola
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"The “terror audit” needs to translate into a roundup."
Disappearances are more efficient.
2 posted on 04/09/2006 1:16:48 AM PDT by GSlob
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"The “terror audit” needs to translate into a roundup."

No, of course it's not that easy! What the police need is more money. Or new laws restricting freedom. One of those two, it's always one of those two. Strangely, when they get the money or the laws, it never seems to result in any of these 'terror suspects' actually being arrested then, a few months later, they tell us that there's now even more of them...


3 posted on 04/09/2006 1:18:46 AM PDT by Canard
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MI5 has received funds to open offices in ...(Birmingham)

Hehe. I was looking for a new job.

4 posted on 04/09/2006 1:21:02 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: M. Espinola; Canard
and it should be remembered that these Isles are really quite small.

1. Lots of damage easily done almost anywhere.
2. A testimony to the secrecy of the concentrated Islamic communities.
3. PC used to stand for police constable now it's politically correct - we couldn't racially profile these people could we - they could be Chinese after all!
4. The police are out stopping people from carrying knives and arresting 10 year old boys for schoolyard names.
5 posted on 04/09/2006 1:25:49 AM PDT by vimto ("I've seen the future of Islam, Guess what? We won!")
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To: M. Espinola

Detain, deport, and if necessary, defenestrate..


6 posted on 04/09/2006 1:28:12 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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"Detain, deport, and if necessary, defenestrate.."

Not necessarily in that order - :)

7 posted on 04/09/2006 1:45:45 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: agere_contra
"Hehe. I was looking for a new job."

Apply at various offices, maybe they have an overload of paperwork :)

8 posted on 04/09/2006 1:47:10 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: GSlob
"Disappearances are more efficient."

The unpublished types are the best.

9 posted on 04/09/2006 1:48:26 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: Canard
Very good points.

One method which will work, if an "Islamic center" is discovered either operating safe houses for jihadists thugs, or funding terrorists, their non-profit status should be immediately revoked.

That would solve a major problem, since they are all involved in promoting anti-Western jihad one way or the other.

10 posted on 04/09/2006 1:51:46 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: vimto

You have brought up points to ponder. Something far more meaningful is a must prior to additional attacks against innocent civilians.


11 posted on 04/09/2006 1:54:21 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: M. Espinola
"Detain, deport, and if necessary, defenestrate..
Not necessarily in that order - :)"
Nah. Have them branded, blinded, drawn, and then quartered.
12 posted on 04/09/2006 1:56:09 AM PDT by GSlob
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"Nah. Have them branded, blinded, drawn, and then quartered."

What about locked up with patriotic British, American & Israeli music playing 24 hours a day? Now that's a counter jihad! lol

13 posted on 04/09/2006 2:00:55 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: M. Espinola

This estimate falls far short of the real numbers. Then again, 400 "invisible" terrorists are easier to cope with.


14 posted on 04/09/2006 2:11:34 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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The real numbers may never be known, but they are a lot higher then 400 if one reviews recent Muslim anti-Western street "protests".
15 posted on 04/09/2006 2:23:38 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: GSlob

What, and lose Labour the Muslim vote?


16 posted on 04/09/2006 2:51:12 AM PDT by English Nationalist
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To: M. Espinola

Just wanted to launch my new tagline...


17 posted on 04/09/2006 3:52:18 AM PDT by Cornpone (Islam: The World’s Greatest, Preventable and Treatable Psychosis©)
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To: M. Espinola

I tend to be the pondering sort. I agree action is now required. Hopefully both have a place in resisting Islam and retaining a pluralist, liberal, capitalist, democracy.


18 posted on 04/09/2006 4:05:29 AM PDT by vimto ("I've seen the future of Islam, Guess what? We won!")
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To: M. Espinola
What is really scary is that if there are 400 - 600+ in England, how many can we assume to have here in the good ol U. S. of A?
Naw, we don't need a fence of more border security.
19 posted on 04/09/2006 4:45:29 AM PDT by namvet66
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To: M. Espinola
It shouldn't be too hard to find these killers.

Simply look in the nearest mosques.

20 posted on 04/09/2006 5:30:59 AM PDT by Gritty (Fighting the jihad in the courtroom means you’ll lose - Mark Steyn)
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