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To: AndyTheBear
Thank you for responding with the sources you rely on for verification of Christ. I have looked into the writings attributed to Josephus, but do not find it as supportive on the subject of Jesus as you seem to. The lone reference in his writings that makes direct mention to Jesus of Nazareth appears to be juxtaposed between two unrelated paragraphs. To make it even more doubtful, the passage in question only showed up in Josephus' writings during a recopying of his texts many decades after his death. Almost like a zealous scribe 'planted' evidence that would support his cause.

As for the Bible, I find that the New Testament has a very powerful political spin to it that, without independent corroboration from other writings of the day, makes me very skeptical to accept it as a true and factual historical record. Many of the books attributed to authors contemporary with the time of Christ were actually written after the fact decades later. Further, many of the events, such as the census leading up to Christ's birth in Bethlehem for example, are directly contradicted by Roman governmental records and practices (the Romans never held a census that required everyone to return to the city of their birth).

Granted, most of the works attributed to Paul are indeed likely to have been authored by him, but even they are mainly composed of political letters and communications to colleagues discussing strategy on how to spin Christianity in order to increase its acceptance.

All in all, whereas the Old Testament has a lot of historical verification of at least the general existence and movements of the peoples discussed, the New Testament is much more spurious. It certainly shows signs that it was created after the fact in an effort to vouch for events that the creators of this invented record wanted others to believe really happened.

165 posted on 04/09/2006 10:18:53 AM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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166 posted on 04/09/2006 10:21:11 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Antonello
Many of the books attributed to authors contemporary with the time of Christ were actually written after the fact decades later.

You sense a deception here? The NIV folks think the four gospels were written some where within 50 to 70 AD. yet they don't see it as a reason to doubt their accuracy. All of the gospels seem to be pretty straight forward about being written after the fact.

As for the works of Josephus, I have not read them. It was just the result of a quick google search to give you a specific non-biblical source.

As for the political spin of the authors of the gospels, they seem to have done pretty well at winning converts in a hostile situation. Those guys must have been brilliant. Its a miracle that the religion they invented was so successful...no wait a minute, not a miracle...just a really good job of spinning. Yeah thats the ticket.

185 posted on 04/09/2006 3:41:46 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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