Posted on 04/04/2006 7:42:56 AM PDT by SmithL
Washington -- California history haunts the Republican civil war raging over immigration that is scheduled to come to a head Friday in a Senate vote.
In 1994, California's Republican Gov. Pete Wilson won a tight re-election race by backing a popular anti-illegal-immigrant measure known as Proposition 187, and he lost his party's grasp on the nation's biggest political prize by alienating Hispanic voters.
The alarm now gripping many in the party, not least the White House, is that history could repeat itself in the teetering red states on which GOP victories depend: Florida, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona and others with fast-growing Latino populations.
Washington has its own version of Prop. 187, known as the Sensenbrenner bill after its author, House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis. It passed the House in December and would, among other things, make illegal immigrants felons and build a 700-mile fence on the border with Mexico.
This week Senate Republicans -- including at least four potential presidential hopefuls, evenly split on the issue -- may decide whether to allow that measure to represent the party's position on immigration or to embrace a bipartisan Senate bill that takes the opposite approach, offering an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants the chance to obtain permanent U.S. residence and allowing upwards of 400,000 more to do so each year under a guest worker plan.
"This is a defining moment for the Republican Party," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who supports the Senate bill, said over the weekend. "If our answer to the fastest-growing demographic in this country is that 'We want to make felons of your grandparents, and we want to put people in jail who are helping your neighbors and people related to you,' then we're going to suffer mightily."
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BTTT!
Exactly. If that were not the case why would Kennedy and the rest of the Demos be behind?
The big question is, why would a Republican Senator get behind it?
The answer is that they work for someone besides the voters. They march to the drumbeat of the CFR. We are in full scale implementation of the "North American Community"
The CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.
Here is where we are headed if we don't control the border. Fictional Future by Travis McGee
We should identify the Senators who are responsible. Vote against them in the primaries. If they are demos cross over and vote against them in the Demo primaries.
We cannot go on re-electing them and expect something different than we have been getting.
:)Easy Does It:)
The war on speech.
In March 2002, Bush signed the McCain-Feingold "campaign finance reform" bill, whose restrictions on political speech in the months approaching an electioni.e., at the time when political speech is most importantare so broad that they've forced a filmmaker, David T. Hardy, to delay the release of his documentary The Rights of the People until after November because it mentions several candidates.
Bush approved this bill fully aware that it was a First Amendment nightmare; it's generally believed that he did so assuming that the Supreme Court would strike down its unconstitutional elements. Surprise: The Court weeded out a few measures but left most of them in place.
That's not to say the government hasn't done anything to increase the amount of political speech. Its ham-handed crackdown on "indecent" broadcastsan effort that is to the cultural realm what McCain-Feingold is to the political sectorhas turned Howard Stern into Amy Goodman.
http://www.reason.com/links/links071304.shtml
So republicans don't want to alienate 12 million illegals but are willing to p*ss off 60 million republican voters.
No wonder we're in trouble. These morons can't even do simple math.
The CFR may be the reason.
But I think there are plenty of pro-amnesty Republicans who favor importing mass quantities of immigrants just because it means lots of cheap labor. I'm not sure all of them would favor the Morth American Community but I bet some would.
The US Chamber of Commerce and other business lobbies have a lot of Republican Senators in their hip pockets. The Senators say what the business interests want them to say and support what the business interests want them to support. They are just bought and paid for sock puppets.
Swifties showed that you beg, indeed, but your begging is misplaced.
Dubya wanted to shut the Swifties-along with every other loose-knit, political advocacy group or organization that escaped the clutches of McCain-Feingold-down.
Swift Boat Veterans For Truth were able to promulgate their message in spite of-not due to-the Bush administration.
The notion that President Bush is a devotee of the First Amendment is laughable on its face.
He has run the most anti-speech Republican White House in recent memory.
Ill let that post of your rest on its own merits.
Unreal.
Ditto
No, not really.
I've seen enough of you folks to realize what your modus operandi is by now.
Just how the hell am I a bush bot when I oppose his position on the guest worker program he backs?
You can try to paint me a bush bot, you can try to paint me conservative neocon.
When you find out where I stand on unions,gay marriage, abortion, immigrations etc etc etc you will surely find out how you do not have a brush to paint me with at all.
Bush hate all you want to. I much prefer to live by the truth that actions and history shows. I back bush when I agree and I point out alternatives to qualify my opposition to him when I disagree.
Your bush hatered is the best demonstrated PEST (Post Election Stress Trauma) that I have seen to date.
W has lead the world in seeing freedom grow around the world. In these ventures freedom of speech and freedom to protest have been widely seen by the world even if you pretend that doesn't exist.
Go on with your bad self and think that W is the worst of the worst. Same was said about Reagan at the time. Look at how history has shown those folks to be wrong. You will find out thru history that you are wrong about W.
Indeed there has been some misleading going on...and you are the sheepest of the sheep to tout the foolishness you do. But hey, its a free country. Have at it all you want to.
I have had ZERO freedoms trampled on and you cannot point to one that you have had trampled on. You can talk about a bunch of what if'sbut that is all you have.
I was however trampled upon by terrorists on 9 11 with the likes of gorelick and clinton to thank for it when it comes to policy regarding getting the lead ( or DU) out after those that wish to fight.
You can say that terrorists have the right to privacy if you want to. You can live with that action. I won't.
If you have a bona fide right trampling example then by all means take it to court.....but see you are a talker and you don't have anything to take to court or you would be posting that example and updating freepers with the progress you are making agsint your arch enemy Geroge W Bush......
Give it up. Really.
I absolutely give up on you.
The most imminent danger comes from campaign-finance rules, especially those spawned by the 2002 McCain-Feingold Campaign Reform Act. Republican maverick John McCains co-sponsorship aside, the bill passed only because of overwhelming Dem support. Its easy to see why liberals have spearheaded the nations three-decade experiment with campaign-finance regulation.
Seeking to rid politics of big-money corruption, election-law reforms obstruct the kinds of political speechpolitical ads and perhaps now the feisty editorializing of the new mediathat escape the filter of the mainstream press and the academy, left-wing fiefdoms still regulation-free. Campaign-finance reform, notes columnist George Will, by steadily expanding governments control of the political campaigns that decide who controls government, advances liberalisms program of extending government supervision of life.
The irony of campaign-finance reform is that the corruption it targets seems not to exist in any widespread sense. Studies galore have found little or no significant influence of campaign contributions on legislators votes. Ideological commitments, party positions, and constituents wishes are what motivate the typical politicians actions in office. Aha! reformers will often riposte, the corruption is hidden, determining what Congress doesnt dolike enacting big gas taxes. But as Will notes, that charge is impossible to refute by disproving a negative.
Even so, such conspiracy-theory thinking is transforming election law into what journalist Jonathan Rauch calls an engine of unlimited political regulation.
McCain-Feingold, the latest and scariest step down that slope, makes it a felony for corporations, nonprofit advocacy groups, and labor unions to run ads that criticizeor even name or showmembers of Congress within 60 days of a federal election, when such quintessentially political speech might actually persuade voters.
It forbids political parties from soliciting or spending soft money contributions to publicize the principles and ideas they stand for. Amending the already baffling campaign-finance rules from the seventies, McCain-Feingolds dizzying dos and donts, its detailed and onerous reporting requirements of funding sourceswhich require a dense 300-page book to lay outhave made running for office, contributing to a candidate or cause, or advocating without an attorney at hand unwise and potentially ruinous.
Not for nothing has Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas denounced McCain-Feingolds unprecedented restrictions as an assault on the free exchange of ideas.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_1_rush_oreilly.html
"It would be nice if he extended some of those freedoms-or at least, refused to trample upon them-to the citizens of his own country, don't ya think?
Freedom In Chains
-by James Bovard"
Yeah I DO think, and BTTT!
Most of us feel the same way. The GOP has clearly turned its back on American workers in favor of corporate interests.
The illegal alien invasion will create a new "slave class" that will eventually wipe out the American middle class. We can't compete for jobs that pay peanuts. We have mortgages to pay and kids to raise. Illegals even get their medical care free, paid for of course by US.
They're importing poverty, disease, ignorance and dependence. Who will pay the bills when the takers outnumber the givers? The "immigration reformers" in D.C. don't have an answer for that one.
Nope, I'm pretty sure that I heard him call the MM vigilantes on more than one occasion.
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DEAR FRIENDS, Thanks for the scores of reports you all have sent us about your visits to Senators' local offices today and your special phone calls. Two days in a row of visits are starting to make quite an impression on many of these offices. Don't underestimate the power of staffers at any level to begin to help change where a politician stands on things -- even if ever so slightly. Wednesday is especially important because the Senators will finally have their chance on Thursday (by current schedule) to stand on the side of a massive amnesty for illegal aliens or stand for the rule of law and against an amnesty. 1. OUR POW-WOW TONIGHT WITH CONGRESSIONAL CHAIRMEN Several of us from the NumbersUSA staff and Board of Directors just shared a dinner and a long evening up on Capitol Hill with four congressional chairmen -- assessing the political lay of the land. Here are some things to relay to you before you begin another day of pressure on your Senators a few hours from now: 1. Yes, we are faced with the possibility of the Senate -- and maybe even the whole Congress -- passing horrendous immigration legislation. But it is good to finally have the battle joined, to have the whole nation paying attention and talking about the problems of our immigration policies. Even if we lose this year, the process will have awakened enough Americans from their apathy that our movement can immediately begin a backlash to overturn the bad deeds of this Congress and finally bring about real reform that re-establishes the rule of law and dramatically cuts overall immigration back down toward traditional numbers. 2. We can still win this year. It is still possible to keep any amnesty from getting the 60 Senate votes required to beat the filibuster that our allies have promised. Our win may simply be that the Senate cannot pass an immigration bill this year. And even if we lose in the Senate, it is still possible to put enough pressure on House Republican leaders to keep any of the immigration increases from getting through. We saw no signs of weariness or unwillingness to keep up the fight from these Members of Congress tonight. 3. These Congressmen were all very clear that the amnesty would have swept through Congress long ago if not for the persistent pressure of regular citizens who refuse to let the elites of their business organizations, their churches, their unions, their political parties and their voluntary organizations speak for them in their advocacy for amnesty. The People are speaking like never before, they said. 4. Of all the voices out there making a difference in Congress, the volume from citizens responding to NumbersUSA Action Alerts is by far the loudest and most influential -- a truly new phenomenon in the immigration battle. 5. These congressional chairmen and leaders for immigration reduction are thankful to all of you who financially make it possible for NumbersUSA to have a team of professional legislative analysts working on the Hill providing full-time, round-the-clock assistance to every Member of Congress who needs help in pursuing immigration-reduction goals. Nobody equals the assistance to the cause on Capitol Hill like our Rosemary Jenks and her Capitol Hill Team, they said. 6. The immigration battle is the most important part of a larger, long-term battle over whether the United States should remain primarily a self-governing nation state, or whether it should merge in various ways with other countries and give over more and more decision-making to global bodies. The latter is being pursued by both Pres. Bush and his many globalist-business Republican supporters and by many Democrats who are guided by neo-Marxist ideologies concerning nations. Most Americans don't realize that the high-immigration pressures are mainly at the service of those two camps. |
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2. Most important Senators to pressure today Because of filibuster promises from our allies, at least 60 of the 100 Senators will have to vote for ending debate on the amnesty for it to have a chance to be passed. Pro-amnesty Senators suggest that they have at least 55 votes for an amnesty. It is imperative that we stop any other Senators from joining them -- and that we continue to work on some of the Senators to drop off the pro-amnesty list. Your NumbersUSA staff has been tied up with some extraordinarily critical work today related to our country's physical security. NumbersUSA has spent months of behind the scenes work with whistle-blowers inside the Department of Homeland Security dealing with terrifying corruption and misfeasance. The results of these efforts will break out into public Thursday with a sensational congressional hearing. As a result of that work on the security front today, we did not get our own Senate headcount. So, I am going to pass on a list of fence-sitters that was sent to its members by FAIR, another immigration-reduction organization working to stop this amnesty. I continue to urge you to contact both of your Senators regardless of whether they are thought to be hardened in their position. But if you see your Senator on this list, please don't miss an opportunity today to voice your opinion: FAIR SAYS: These Senators are reportedly on the fence about which way they will vote-for special interest or the public interest. Please call these Senators to tell them to vote against the Specter legislation and the Frist legislation. We need to adopt border security and enforcement only provisions like S. 2377 introduced by Senators Nelson, Coburn and Sessions. Call these Senators' offices now! Sen. Lott R-MS (202) 224-6253 Sen. Allen R-VA (202) 224-4024 Sen. Allard R-CO (202) 224-5941 Sen. Bond R-MO (202) 224-5721 Sen. Burns R-MT (202) 224-2644 Sen. Chambliss R-GA (202) 224-3521 Sen. Cornyn R-TX (202) 224-2934 Sen. Hatch R-UT (202) 224-5251 Sen. Dorgan D-ND (202) 224-2551 Sen. Kyl R-AZ (202) 224-4521 Sen. Sununu R-NH (202) 224-2841 Sen. Ensign R-NV (202) 224-6244 Sen. Rockefeller D-WV (202) 224-6472 Sen. Stabenow D-MI (202) 224-4822 Sen. Feinstein D-CA (202) 224-3841 Sen. Frist R-TN (202) 224-3344 Sen. Talent R-MO (202) 224-6154 Sen. Thomas R-WY (202) 224-6441 Sen. DeMint R-SC (202) 224-6121 Sen. Burr R-NC (202) 224-3154 Sen. Bennett R-UT (202) 224-5444 Sen. Hutchison R-TX (202) 224-5922 Sen. Snowe R-ME (202) 224-5344 Sen. Enzi R-WY (202) 224-3424 Sen. McConnell R-KY (202) 224-2541 Sen. Murkowski R-AK (202) 224-6665 Sen. Santorum R-PA (202) 224-6324 Sen. Thune R-SD (202) 224-2321 Sen. Bunning R-KY (202) 224-4343 3. Some very important things to learn from your reports of visits to Senators' local offices I and about 25 others went to Chambliss and Isakson offices yesterday. Spoke with staffers and made our points. One of the group was a lady from Austria who entered the U.S. the legal way and let the staffers know how upset she is about the Government doing nothing about the illegals. Some came due to hearing a local radio show WGST announce the plan. Others came because we get your messages and do things together frequently. -------------------Jane in Marietta, GA We had ten people at Senator Coleman's office today. I travelled yesterday 80 miles(both ways) from S.Padre Isle. to We were to meet at Senator Bennett's office today at 12:00 noon, but his office in St. George was closed. When Bob and I got there late, the people had already decided to have a spontaneous demonstration on the sidewalk outside Sen. Bennett's office, which is just across the street from Sen. Hatch's office (no one was there either). There were 32 people there with flags, signs and posters. The main street, St. George Blvd. was torn up for construction and traffic was being rerouted to Tabenacle where we stood. It was noontime and lots of people going by. Every third car honked, giving us a thumbs up sign. Before long both the news media and the television was there. Don't know who called them. They interviewed several of our folks. We stuck with the message mostly: Control our borders, no amnesty, no guest worker program. All in all a big success. Dear Roy, yesterday I drove to Orlando to visit the offices of the two Florida Senators. As I was going through the lobby of the office building of Senator Martinez, he was leaving for the airport to fly to Washington, D.C. So I stopped him, introduced myself and told him that I was coming to visit him to vent my frustrations about his support of amnesty and an open border policy. My wife, an American born in Texas to Mexican parents, and I went to Senator Martinez office today and saw no one else but the staffer. He was very polite and listened to what we had to saw. I think he was impressed about our knowledge of Martinez position on illegal aliens. We were there for about 20 minutes while he listened. The phone was fairly busy with callers asking about Martinez position on this issue. I can tell you, Martinez is no friend of Florida voters having a 100% record against American Citizens. My wife and I informed the staffer that we would never vote for him again. I have two grandsons of Mexican decent and two nephews of Cuban decent. My family are all Americans first!!! I have the whole family involved including cousins in Georgia. I met with one of the Staff members of Pat Roberts from the State of Kanas today. He indicated that Senator Roberts believed we needed to shore up the borders before anything else pertaining to illegal immigration. I also went to Sen. Brownback's but his office was locked at 4 PM I went to Norm Colemans office (R-MN). I told the receptionist that I wanted to speak to someone about Border Security & Immigration Reform. They asked Do you have comments? I said Yes. They handed me a sheet of paper to write my comments. I filled out the entire front of the sheet and attached the Immigration Grades and the NumberUSA voting analysis. They said Well make sure the Senator gets this. I bet. Hope this does some good. Im wigging out over these issues. Two members of C4ICE - Citizens (of Pennsylvania) for Immigration Control and Enforcement, Alice Moffett and Marge Adelsberger, visited Senator Santorums office, Suite 960, in the Widener Bldg. at Broad and Chestnuts Streets in Phiadelphia, PA on Monday, April 3. Four Idaho residents arrived at Senator Larry Craig's office in Boise, Idaho. The office manager was very kind and we did appreciate her attention, in fact she identified each one us and recorded our complaints about most all aspects of Immigration reform including guest-worker amnesty. It is now clear that BOTH GA Senators are not doing what WE the people are telling them to do. I just got off the phone with both Senators offices and both Senators are in favor of a Guest worker program of some kind. Senator Isakson showed his true colors this morning on C-Span. He wants a guest worker program. In other words a revolving door for industry in the USA. Senator Chambliss wants the same thing he just calls it a different name. Just wanted to let you know I took a half day off work today to visit both my CA Senators' offices in Los Angeles. This was interesting to say the least. Senator Boxer's office was the first because it was closest, if that is ever a proper term in this city, so off I went to downtown Los Angeles. If you've never been there it can be an infuriating mix of few parking lots, one way streets and barricades. Lots of fun to navigate, especially around the extremely inaccessible Courthouse building where Ms. Boxer has chosen to place her LA office. I can't think of a harder place to get to in LA when driving a car there. It took me 20 mins just to find parking several blocks away. Then her office is in the most distant corner of the top floor, down a hall behind a wierd opaque door that has a Door Must Stay Closed sign on it and it is not clear you can go through it, but I did and her office was last one down the hall. The people were nice enough but I did sense some How Dare He from a few of the nice ladies there. I spoke with Adolfo Bailon, Sr Field Representative. He was pleasant enough, and did a lot of nodding, but you could tell he was open borders all the way as Boxer has a record of being. I did make it to Sen. McCain's Phoenix office yesterday. I asked to talk with someone and she told me they could forward my concerns or comments to the Senator, they didn't have someone that could talk with me, they didn't want to speak for the Senator, to put words in his mouth. She seemed nervous or upset in some way, maybe too many people contacting them. I left a letter stating my concerns for her to give to the Senator. Went by K B Huchesons at 2:30 Pm 4/3/06. Was the only person there. Cornyn office at 3:00...4 people there. Had a lively discussion with staff. I think we need to be more adament in urging people to get out to the offices. Roy, my wife and I visited Senator Salazar's Denver office at 12:45pm today and went over the senator's dismal immigration reduction voting record (D- grade) with the receptionist, pointing out in writing how Senator Salazar could improve and be more like his Democratic collegues Byron Dorgen (A-) and Robert Byrd (B+). Just wanted to let you know I did go to Cornyn's office today @ 1 p.m. I was the only one there but had apparently just missed a group of people. I was on my way to work and didn't have talking points or grade cards and was pretty much unprepared so I just briefly explained to the staffer how illegal immigration has affected the people in my household as far as work opportunities available, and stressed that there should be no amnesty/guest worker program.The staffer assured me that Cornyn has no intention of supporting said amnesty/guest worker program. I suppose we shall see. My husband and I went to Sens. Murray and Cantwell offices in Everett, closest offices to home. Both were CLOSED. Stopped off in Rep. Larsen's office. Told the staffer (Bill Phillips, Senior Constituent Services Rep.) to thank Larsen for voting FOR H.R.4437 (surprise of my life). Asked him if Larsen had any kind of relation with our two senators and was told there was none except on specific projects when they were working on them together. My finance and I took off from work today and visited our elected Members of Congress - In the Senate that is John Warner and George Allen and in the House, Frank Wolf. We were cordially received in all quarters,and we were armed with our personal message, a letter we both signed and the report card on each member from Numbers USA. Sen. Warner's "immigration" person, Lena Munesifi, was in a meeting so we left our letter, the Report Card and a message about the importance of this issue to us. We spoke to George Allen's staffer Andrew Guggenheim (yes, Guggenheim) who was very courteous to us, despite our un-announced visit and the fact that he too was running off to a meeting. Finally, we had a nice chat with Frank Wolf's staffer Courtney Schlieter. This was a terrific exercise in democracy. It is literally the first time I have ever done such a thing, even though I have lived in Northern Virginia for over 30 years. This issue is the most important thing to come along in many years. And while Senator John Kerry is now shamelessly making political ads in Spanish (pretty bad Spanish at that) we are doing all we can to try to plug the hole in the dike of American culture, values and way of life. Thank you Numbers USA for all you do. I already contribute to you, but may have to increase my commitment to you this year to help you with your noble mission. My friend and I went to Hillary Clinton's office and were told by the front desk that without an appointment we couldn't see anyone. He also told us that he turned about 50 to 60 people away while he was on duty already today because they didn't have an appointment either. While we were standing there one of Hillary Clinton's staffer came down to escort someone up to her office. I took the opportunity and walked right up to him and asked politely if we could speak to someone from senator Clinton's office. I told him that we wanted to talk about her immigration-reduction report card and how upset we were regarding her record. He insisted that we had to make an appointment. I did ask him to please make a note about our visit. I went to Senator Sam Brownback's office this afternoon right before I went to work out at the gym. It got me hyped! I had a great workout! I visited Senator Feinsteins office this morning. It was over an hours drive. There were eight or nine people in the lobby area waiting to go up. Another half dozen or so were outside with signs. The lobby security was controlling the number of people allowed upstairs. I was told there were two groups of four waiting to meet with a representative of the senator. I spoke with some of the other people waiting. It was good conversation, sharing information
waiting. About forty-five minutes later we were told the senators representative had other commitments at 1pm and would not be able to meet with any more people. I visited the offices of Senator Barrack Obama today... But here's something you might NOT have considered. Just got back from Sen. Hatch's SLC office. I was able to speak with Sharon Garn the Director of Casework. I'm afraid the anger and emotion came out a few too many times. After it was all over I came to the conclusion that I must have hit some raw nerves with her when I started hitting point after point. After I told her Sen. Hatch had a terrible record on immigration and gave her his report card she really got unnerved and said it wasn't true. I said I'd be glad to send her a book full of his past votes. Here in New Jersey we are represented by a couple of senators with "F" ratings on immigration. I have written letters and called their offices many times over the past couple weeks. There is no doubt at all they will vote with the enemy no matter what the citizens think. Went to visit Ffrank Lautenberg @ his office in Camden today but was turned away by armed guards; no visitors allowed - ever! Typical frank. Robert menendez had no one in the office to talk to but I left written and verbal messages with the secretary. My opinion of these two dirtbags is - utter contempt; wretched reprobates. I prepared my papers, picture of my father from WWII, etc. When I entered Sen. Cornyn's office there were eight people there. There was only one poor little girl staffer that was almost in tears because of the anger expressed at our govt. Finally an older lady came out and started to get defensive and began to try and deflect the criticism with double talk about no amnesty but guest worker program... I went to Senator Hutchison's and Cornyn's offices here in Houston. The district directors in both offices treated me very well. I took the Numbers charts and suggested that we need to have an evaluation of what is the optimum population for the US. I also took a letter for each of them on Texas for Immigration Reform letterhead. I told them that I represented the over two hundred members of TFIR. I felt that though I never see the senators by leaving a letter it may be passed on. I received a printout from Senator Cornyn of his position on amnesty. I just wanted to let you know that I went by Sen. Sam Brownbacks office located at 811 N Main, Garden City, KS 67846. NO staff member was even in the office! The receptionist for the building Brownback's office is located in said that the staffer would not be in the office until Wednesday or Thursday. I did leave my copy of Brownback's gradecard and wrote my name and phone number on it. I also wrote a note on the bottom saying we wanted an enforcement only bill with NO amnesty or greencard and visa increases, so I guess we'll see if he bothers to call me when the office is finally staffed. 4. Roy was too stern in his stern speaking about Monday's turnout at Senators' offices |
I totally agree with your post. Well stated.
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