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Premature Articulation: The Real Jill Carroll for Jimmy Carter Geraghty and Others...
Debbie Schlussel.com Blog Archives ^ | April 2, 2006 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 04/02/2006 9:45:26 PM PDT by goldstategop

Here's a note to you bloggers--especially the suddenly blind conservative ones--who want Jill Carroll to be what she is not. Please read it VERY CAREFULLY and S-L-O-W-L-Y, as some of you seem to have premature articulation and reading comprehension problems (that includes National Review Online's Jim Geraghty a/k/a "Jimmy Carter Geraghty," so nicknamed for his apparent propensity to ignore truths about pro-Islamists when they are right in his face):

Over the last few months, since Jill Carroll was kidnapped and upon her release, I posted her REAL views They remain her views, and she has NOT denied or disavowed them. I never once cited a video that was made in captivity, as others did and as others are now claiming I owe an apology for. I do not. They owe me an apology for projecting the video onto my work. And for pretending to be able to read, when clearly they cannot.

The facts remain the same, as do the unfortunate, continuing plagues of blindness, deafness, and dumbness that have struck all of those who have some bizarre fantasy about their new unworthy heroine, a far-left "journalist," Jill Carroll.


Facts Are Stubborn Things: Jill Carroll's Extremist Friends, Views NOT Refuted

Jill Carroll was a close friend of the late Code Pinko Marla Ruzicka a/k/a "Treasonatrix Barbie." Ruzicka's group helped raise money for Islamic insurgents in Fallujah who burnt our contractors to a crisp. They also raised money for Palestinian terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank. You can tell a lot about a person by the company she keeps. And that was with whom Jill Carroll kept company.

Then, there's Jill Carroll's former employer, the anti-Semitic, anti-American Jordan Times (for whom she CHOSE to work), long ago made the following statement about her (which, to date, she has NEVER contradicted or disavowed):

The kidnappers who abducted her could not have chosen a more wrong target. True, Jill is a US citizen. But she is also more critical of US policies towards the Middle East than many Arabs. . . . Jill has been from day one opposed to the war, to the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
More than just being sympathetic with average Iraqis under war and occupation, Jill is a true believer in Arab causes.

From Arabic food to the Arabic language, Jill has always wanted to know and experience as much as possible about Arab identity, and she is keen on absorbing it, learning, understanding and respecting it.

She doesn't just "like" Arab culture, she loves it. . . . It is simply unconscionable for any Arab to want to harm a person like her.

Again, neither of these things has anything to do with the video Jill Carroll made. Nada. Zippo. And yet, Jill Carroll has not provided any evidence to the contrary. Because there is none. Facts are stubborn things.

It's a shame I've had to post this THREE times, and yet it still doesn't sink in for quite a few of you. It's not rocket science, people.

Then, there are the radical U.S.-based Islamist groups I wrote about, which spent a ton of time, effort, and resources to get Jill Carroll released. They are groups like LIFE for Relief and Development (which gave millions to HAMAS and is believed to be funding Iraqi insurgents), HAMAS-front group CAIR, and the rabidly anti-Semitic, pro-HAMAS/Hezbollah Congress of Arab American Organizations and American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee.

These groups were nowhere to be seen for the following U.S. hostages, some of whom have since been murdered, but some of whom remain alive: Tom Fox, Ronald Schulz, Jack Hensley, Eugene (Jack) Armstrong, Nicholas Berg, Jeffrey Ake, Sadeq Mohammed Sadeq, Aban Elias, and Keith Maupin.

Not a peep out of the American Islamist groups for them, even the two Arab-American ones (Sadeq and Elias).

So ask yourself--ye blind worshippers of Jill Carroll--why did these rabidly Islamist groups in the U.S. go out on a limb for Jill Carroll, and no-one else? So, Jimmy Carter Geraghty and others, I'm waiting for your answer. But I know one will never be forthcoming. (As for Jim, his e-mail address indicates he's in Turkey, so perhaps he, too, like Jill Carroll is writing "in captivity," or perhaps he's seen "Kurtlar Vadisi - Irak" one too many times.)

To sum up, I never cited the video, but I did cite these 3 heretofore unrebutted facts (her recanting of the video notwithstanding):

1) Jill Carroll worked, by her choice, for an Islamist newspaper that said she shares its anti-American, anti-Israel views (no reason to doubt that, she worked for them by her choice);

2) Jill Carroll was close friends with an American who worked for Code Pink (funding and helping terrorists);

3) Jill Carroll was unique among ALL American hostages in Iraq in getting the mammoth effort by U.S. Islamist groups (all of whom support terrorists and oppose the war in Iraq) to secure her release. They know what she stands for.

And it should be obvious to you, too.

As for any calls for an apology, the apology is owed to ME by all the premature articulators out there who didn't read closely and falsely claimed I cited the video. I did not.

Jill Carroll's views and Islamist, terror-supporting friends in the U.S. remain the same. Time for all of you to get LASIK so you finally see it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: codepinkcommies; debbieschlussel; iraq; islamistokyorose; islamofascism; jillcaroll; jimmycartergeraghty; waronterror
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Jill Caroll is STILL an Islamist, terror-supporting Tokyo Rose.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1 posted on 04/02/2006 9:45:28 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
If this were a Halliburton employee held hostage and then released, you think the press would be making such a big deal out of this? Carroll is one of their own.
2 posted on 04/02/2006 9:48:23 PM PDT by CALawyer
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To: OldFriend

A little background on innocent little Jill...


3 posted on 04/02/2006 9:50:18 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: goldstategop
Jill Carroll worked, by her choice, for an Islamist newspaper that said she shares its anti-American, anti-Israel views (no reason to doubt that, she worked for them by her choice)" --

Right.......... this girl is "out there"....... and now the media and McPain are protecting her.

Did you hear McPain saying she really doesn't mean any of that anti-American crap coming out of her mouth?

4 posted on 04/02/2006 9:50:48 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Claire De Lune ........ 1862)
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To: goldstategop
?NOTE To Sidebar Mod: Don't put in an original TITLE TOO LONG FOR A THREAD! If it won't fit, I have to decide if something better works. Its not usually necessary but sometimes editorial discretion is justified.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

5 posted on 04/02/2006 9:56:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FOXFANVOX

Ping


6 posted on 04/02/2006 9:56:18 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do)
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To: goldstategop

I watched her video one time on the news and looked at my wife and told her....she is as cool as a cucumber and reading off a script...probably one she wrote because the english was written for AMERICANS to listen to.

She thought I was kidding.

She looks like she is professing something....not begging for her life.

I can only hope O'reilly has the balls to get on top of this story and put the pressure on her and the forces complicit in her release.

She grew up in Ann Arbor.....a stones throw away from the New Fallujah.


7 posted on 04/02/2006 9:56:19 PM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter (What quantifies this as an assault rifle?)
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To: goldstategop

Whoa!! Debbie is on a tear here, but I'm not sure why. Who doesn't know that Jill Carroll is a scumbag and always was a scumbag? This is news?? I won't speak for anybody else at FR but you certainly won't find any posts from me on any previous "Jill Carroll" threads. I always took her "abduction" for a joke and cared about Jill Carroll about as much as I cared about that other scumbag "journalist" who was abducted (the Italian one - - Sgrena(?)).

As far as Debbie and her way-too-defensive screed posted above, I would recommend she keep a little post-it on her desk with the old Chinese proverb: "Only a fool argues with a fool."


8 posted on 04/02/2006 10:00:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: goldstategop

So what's your point? Would you have been happy if they cut her head off? And if you say no...you're lying. And that's sickening.


9 posted on 04/02/2006 10:01:49 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Michigan Bowhunter
Yep. And when it comes to lefties, I'm amazed some people still make excuses for them. Citizens of the world they are not. There are traitors and there are treasonixtrices. Caroll is definitely one of the latter... and as the old saying has it, you can judge a person by the company they keep.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

10 posted on 04/02/2006 10:02:13 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Michigan Bowhunter

I need to find the video on a talk show when she was first snatched; her mother said she's there to help you and has been getting your views out, she dressed like you and hung out with your people... (I said to myself... odd).

Then later, when they let her father speak... he sounded like someone who was distressed and wanted his daughter back... no spin. They were polar opposites.

Right then and there I emailed Jawa and a few others... they got the video and said it's not right. I emailed Rush and asked if he saw it... if not get it (no views expressed either way); He came on and stated something was not right.

During the time her folks were speaking... they were showing in the background Jill in muslim dress with the locals and a clip of her reporting previously.

I just got back from D.C. and missed all the weekend news... my friend told me she was taken by military transport (I was told she didn't and would not be debriefed previously). When I catch up, will post on this thread.


11 posted on 04/02/2006 10:04:14 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do)
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To: Hildy
It would have been poetic justice. I keep thinking about the lefty peacenik who was murdered and dumped in Baghdad. Hating America will all his heart didn't save him from his fate. Caroll was only spared because of the intervention of the Treason Lobby here who have not lifted a finger for other Americans held hostage. That and the terrorists holding her finally realized she could promote their aims far better alive than dead. No doubt she'll tell us we need to understand and negotiate with these people. That's the nature of Caroll and her fellow Communist ilk - scorpions waiting to sting you to death because its in their nature to do our country harm.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

12 posted on 04/02/2006 10:06:59 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Jill Carroll was a close friend of the late Code Pinko Marla Ruzicka a/k/a "Treasonatrix Barbie."

Sounds like a Susan Lindauer type.

13 posted on 04/02/2006 10:07:54 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (There isn't a more appropriate way to wave the US flag than in the face of its enemies.)
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To: goldstategop

No wonder the terrorists treated her well!


14 posted on 04/02/2006 10:08:14 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: goldstategop
From Arabic food to the Arabic language, Jill has always wanted to know and experience as much as possible about Arab identity, and she is keen on absorbing it, learning, understanding and respecting it.

Apparently so. She gained at least 20 lbs. in "captivity."

15 posted on 04/02/2006 10:08:41 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: holyscroller

I think that she has more than Stockholm Syndrome... More like Resentment syndrome.


16 posted on 04/02/2006 10:08:51 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

She got the opprutunity to do so... With her terrorist buddies.


17 posted on 04/02/2006 10:09:23 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: goldstategop

I hope you learn to control that hate....you'll die an early death. That'll show them.


18 posted on 04/02/2006 10:11:06 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: goldstategop

I turned FOX off this morning after the first "NEWS ALERT" that her freakn plane was about to land in Boston. I remembered all her rhetoric before she was uh kidnapped. She was a champion of the anti-war crowd. And now the media wants to proclaim her as a returning hero? That said, I am glad she was not beheaded but I believe she will be making the rounds of the talk shows while her story is still hot and I think she will have the same axe to grind as she did before the uh kidnapping.


19 posted on 04/02/2006 10:13:57 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: Hildy
I absolutely agree. This is hateful. Politics aside, this young woman is home. We should be thankful and hold the judgment.
20 posted on 04/02/2006 10:23:21 PM PDT by ER Doc
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