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Saddam Regime Document: Iraqi Intelligence met with Bin Laden in 1995 (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website about Iraq Pre-War Documents ^ | March 21 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 03/21/2006 3:18:32 PM PST by jveritas

In the Pentagon/FMSO document ISGZ-2004-009247 there is a clear report about the relation between Iraq and Bin Laden that dated back to 1995. This document contains a 9 page report from the Iraqi Intelligence Apparatus and it is titled “The Saudi Opposition and Achieving the Relation and Contact With Them”. In the report they talk about there meeting with Osama Bin Laden and that Bin Laden in 1995 and how to establish relations wiht him. In the meeting Bin Laden asked the Iraqis for joint operations with them against the Foreign forces (US military) in the land of Hijaz (Saudia or Saudi Arabia).

I did a partial translation of the report that is related to Osama Bin Laden

(Translation of Part of Page 1)

In the Name of God the Most Merciful and the Most Compassionate.

The Saudi Opposition and Achieving the Relation and Contact With Them

(Translation of part of Page 4)

2. The Comission of Reform and Advise

Lead by the Saudi Osama Bin Laden who belongs to a wealthy Saudi family with her roots go back to Hadramoot and connected strongly with the ruling family in Saudia, and he is one of the leaders of the Arab Afghan who volunteered for Jihad in Afghanistan, and after the expulsion of the Soviets he moved to stay in Sudan in the year 1992 after the arrival of the Islamists to power in Sudan.

And because of his stands against the Saudi Royal family because of the foreign presence inside it, the Saudi authorities made a decision to withdraw his Saudi citizenship, and we moved toward The Comission from our side and through the following:

Translation of page 5

A. During the visit of the Sudanese Dr. Abrahim Al Sanoosi to the country and his meeting with Mr. Uday Saddam Hussein on 13/12/1994 and with the presence of the respectful Sir the Director of the Apparatus he indicated that the opposition person Osama Bin Laden who is staying in Sudan and who was cautious and fears that he will be accused by his opponents that he became an agent for Iraq, is ready to meet with him in Sudan (The results of the meeting were written to the Honorable Presidency according to our letter 872 on 17/12/1994).

B. The approval of the Honorable Presidency was granted to meet with the opposition person Osama Bin Laden by the Apparatus according to letter 128 on 11/1/1995 (attachment 6) and the meting with him was completed by Mr. M.A ex-4th Directory in Sudan and with the presence of the Sudanese Dr. Abrahim AL Sanoosi on 19/2/1995 and a discussion occurred about his organization, and he requested the broadcasting of Sheikh Sleiman AL Awada (who has influence in Saudia and outside since he is a known and influential religious personality) and dedicate a program for them through the station directed inside the country and make joint operations against the forces of infidels in the land of Hijaz ( the Honorable Presidency has been notified with the details of the meeting according to our letter 370 in 4/3/1995 attachment 7).

Translation of page 6

C. The approval of Mr. President the Leader God protect him was granted to dedicate and program for them through the station directed and we leave to develop the relation and cooperation between the two sides what open in front of it in discussion and agreement through other cooperation doors. The Sudanese side was informed about the approval of the Honorable Presidency above through the representative of the respectful Sir the Director of the Apparatus our ambassador in Khartoom.

D. Due to the latest conditions in Sudan and accusing her harboring of supporting and harboring terrorism it was agreed with the opposition person the Saudi Osama Bin Laden to leave Sudan to another place where he left Khartoom in the month of July 1996 and the information indicate that he is Afghanistan at the present moment. There is stil relation with him through the Sudanese side and we work in the present moment to activate this relation with him through a new channel in light of the current place where he stays.


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To: All; Marine_Uncle; jveritas
Salman Pak is a town near Baghdad; it is best known as the site of an Iraqi military facility that reportedly was used to train terrorists before the war. We'd like to hear from anyone who can translate the document.

This is the location where the airline plane body was spotted from satellite photos and it's use was suspected to be to train terrorist in techniques to hijack commercial air flights.

181 posted on 03/22/2006 12:35:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas
Document in question is this:

ISGZ-2004-031613.pdf

182 posted on 03/22/2006 12:38:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: xzins
MSM response-but, but, but, there were no WMD'S!!!!

Every other fact is irrelevant-Bush lied....

183 posted on 03/22/2006 1:25:49 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: jveritas

NPR had on a Robert Malek (sp.?)this morning. He's written a book analyzing various 'insurgents/terrorists', and has a website. What do they want? To destroy western civilization? --- this wasn't even hinted at by Malek and NPR. Malek said they're disparate groups with individual agendas so the President might be wrong saying all terrorists are bad and need to be wiped out. Of course, it only takes one or two with a bomb to wipe out a city, Malek did admit that. (NPR was trying to make the President look like a warmonger.)


184 posted on 03/22/2006 1:31:52 PM PST by hershey
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To: hershey; fortheDeclaration; xzins; jveritas; tallhappy
See this for an OUTSTANDING READ and Rebuttal of the Leftists such as Robert Malek !

Prospects of Terror: An Inquiry into Jihadi Alternatives (I)

185 posted on 03/22/2006 1:47:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Strange enough I was going to release the translation this evening after I am done with it. And now since I am done this is the translation of page 3 of the document which is the relevent one and most important one to the subject:

Page 3 Translation:

In The Name of God the Most Merciful The Most Compassionate

Directory of General Security

Directory of Security Ninevah Province

No: 10106

Directory of General Security/ Director Section 1

Subject: Information

Date: 24/8/2002

The confident (1253) declared the following:

1.In the date of 21/8/2002 an American delegation who is visiting the Northern Region has paid a visit to the headquarters of the Iraqi communist party in Shaklawa. And the representative of the communist party presented accusing the Iraqi government of hiding members of Al Qaeda organization in the region of Salman Pak in addition to members of the Turkish Workers party and the Iranian Moujahidee Khlak and that they are trained to use chemical weapons and that Iraq will use them in case there is military strike directed toward it.

1. The Kurdish communist party did inform the Norwegian authorities about the existence of inside the Norwegian territories called (Malakrikar) from the residents of Irbil and in charge of the Al Qaeda organizations there and upon the attempt of the Norwegian authorities to arrest him he fled to China with his family.

2. In the date of 15/8/2002 and common meeting was held between the two Communist Iraqi and Kurdish parties.. and this to unify their political position in regards to the international situation and the Iraqi dossier.

End of translation.

The confident means the agent source that the Iraqi intelligence is using and his is identified only by his number 1253.

186 posted on 03/22/2006 1:56:20 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yes, but who were the Americans?


187 posted on 03/22/2006 2:02:47 PM PST by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"This is the location where the airline plane body was spotted from satellite photos and it's use was suspected to be to train terrorist in techniques to hijack commercial air flights."
What some don't remember is one of the major networks, prior to the Iraqi invasion had shown a documentary on Terrorism in Iraq. I clearly remember them showing video of goons running around the outside of that boeing jet up on blocks. Apparently that documentary has gone into abscurity along with a lot of other things the L/MSM had shown prior to the invasion. They are being quite dis-ingeniouse in all they do. For all I know it could have been a Sixty Minute documentation. But clearly they showed a tape someone had aquired. And obviously many of us have seen the jet sitting at Salmon Pak.
The various industrial complexes in the Salmon Pak area also where used for bio/chemical weapon development. And across the Tigres River to the east by a few miles, is where the Tuwaitha nuclear plant containing the two nuclear reactor plants, Tammuz I and II are located. Of course number I was the famouse renamed Osirak which was a 70 megawatt breeder that was used to produce plutonium for eventual use in building a atom bomb. Had the Israelis not bombed the place, and Saddam had his way, plans where in the making to construct a French designed 500 megawatt uranium graphite gas reactor which could produce electricity as well as perhaps 100 lbs. of plutonium per year. This is what Saddam really wanted. But even with all type of black mailing and threats to stop the flow of oil, the French continued to hold off, from delievery of this design.
At any rate. As time goes on, I do hope well written books that will carefully sum up the whole deal come forth.
The whole frigen world believed Saddam had on plans on abandoning his quest for wmds. The L/MSM cannot fool all the people all the time.
188 posted on 03/22/2006 2:07:18 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: All
Just caught Buchanan on Chrissy Matthews show.

I always find it hilarious that they bring on some Clinton Chief of Staff, or Campaign Director for the lib side of 'hardball', and they pick Pat to be the president's supporter.

Anyway... Pat is still saying that "We brought the Terrorists in there, we created the magnet and they flooded in, I agree we shouldn't have ever gone in"
189 posted on 03/22/2006 4:10:55 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

One day they'll realize -- it's ALL the middle eastern muslims against us.


190 posted on 03/22/2006 5:23:02 PM PST by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: fortheDeclaration

There were WMDs.


191 posted on 03/22/2006 7:47:05 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Pray for Our Troops!)
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To: jveritas
A lot of new Arabic documents have been released in the last day. Up to 8 pages of untranslated documents now. This one looks interesting.

IZSP-2003-00300856
Synopsis: IRAQI MINISTER OF DEFENSE CALLS FOR AN INVESTIGATION INTO WHY DOCUMENTS OF A WMD NATURE WERE FOUND BY A UN INSPECTION TEAM

192 posted on 03/23/2006 12:41:05 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: El Gato

Thanks!


193 posted on 03/23/2006 1:42:02 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Southack

The Smoking Gun!

You call THAT a smoking gun? *lol*


194 posted on 03/23/2006 7:35:51 AM PST by cologne_blood
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To: jveritas

ping


195 posted on 03/23/2006 8:36:58 AM PST by scottdeus12 (Liberals are like festering cysts. They must be lanced, drained, and removed.)
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To: nuffsenuff
I'm assuming that the 9/11 commission DID NOT have these documents?

Would it have made any difference?

196 posted on 03/23/2006 9:26:38 AM PST by TBP
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Is this what you refer to?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/378fmxyz.asp


197 posted on 03/23/2006 9:31:52 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: McGavin999
Yes, but who were the Americans?

Damn good question,,,,

198 posted on 03/23/2006 1:11:54 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas

Every GOP talking head better start stating that there was a connection and it is proven in these documents and if any Liberal say there is no connection the GOP bettere slap them down with the simple statement PROVE IT. Why do the Republicans alwasy have to PROVE the connection. I say they need to PROVE there was no connection. Same with WMD. They existed now PROVE they were not moved. COMMON Sense says a connection existed i.e., The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The President does not deserve to be treated this way. The GOP better start standing up for him.


199 posted on 03/23/2006 1:23:08 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Liberal Lips Sink Ships....)
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To: txroadkill

This is MSNBC's spin. What else would one expect?

So now we have documentary evidence of what had been suspected - that there was a covert relationship between the Iraqi regime and Bin Laden. What other conclusion can you come to?


200 posted on 03/23/2006 6:37:06 PM PST by popdonnelly
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