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Libby to Fitzgerald: If You Won't Name the CIA Leaker, I Will
National Review Online ^ | March 20, 2006 | Byron York

Posted on 03/20/2006 7:57:28 AM PST by Cboldt

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To: Cboldt
Ok I think you have pointed out what was in my memory bank.

Note Rockefeller plainly says that "We immediately requested that the CIA take action to determine the source of the leak......."

http://talkleft.com/plamehearing1.pdf
81 posted on 03/20/2006 3:57:35 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: george wythe
Mr. Fitzgerald knows he has a weak case, and he keeps changing the underlying 'facts' of the original indictment.

All of your summations were great. The one above, however, leads me to conclude that Fitzgerald is a sonofabitch to have brought such bogus charges against Libby. I hope he can't sleep at night knowing that he's done irreparable harm to a dedicated and decent man's career and finances all because he wanted the approval from the left and his one hour of fame, giving his ridiculous joke of a press conference.

It's down right nauseating and I hope what goes around comes around really soon and smacks Fitzgerald upside the head so hard that he'll never recover.

82 posted on 03/20/2006 4:14:36 PM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: MinuteGal
I'd like to know what Fitz is charging per hour for his own work. I'm not talking about the hundreds of thousands he's spending of taxpayers' money.....I'm talking about what HE is earning personally.

Does Patrick Fitzgerald Get Two Salaries?
He has two jobs.

By Daniel Engber
Posted Friday, Oct. 28, 2005, at 6:12 PM ET

This afternoon, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald announced the indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's top aide. Fitzgerald also serves as a U.S. attorney based in Chicago, and his office is prosecuting the former governor of Illinois. Does Patrick Fitzgerald get two salaries?

No. In December of 2003, the U.S. Attorney General's Office appointed Fitzgerald to be the special prosecutor for the CIA leak case that led to today's indictment, but that doesn't mean he left his job as U.S. attorney. Since he was already on the government payroll--making $140,300 a year--he wasn't eligible to receive any more money for the additional work. To handle both jobs, Fitzgerald--or "Fitzie," as he's known to friends--shuttles to Washington, D.C., from the Windy City, where he spends most of his time.

http://www.slate.com/id/2129001/

Also, how much is he paying his staff and what is the total so far.

I'd also like to know the total so far for Fitz's personal expenses.....and for the personal expenses for his staff. Travel, hotels, meals, gasoline, car rentals, you name it....I'd like to see it.

A Tough Investigation Is Also Praised as Nonpartisan

By Peter Slevin and Carol D. Leonnig
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, October 24, 2005; A03

Known for convicting Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and for compiling the first criminal indictment against Osama bin Laden, Fitzgerald is an Irish doorman's son who attended a Jesuit high school, then Amherst College -- where he was a Phi Beta Kappa mathematics and economics major -- and Harvard. ...

While supervising at least four lawyers and an FBI team in the leak case, Fitzgerald jetted between his downtown Chicago office and borrowed space at 1400 New York Ave. NW, not far from the courthouse where the grand jury meets most Wednesdays and Fridays. In its first 15 months, the investigation cost $723,000, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Inquiry as Exacting As Special Counsel Is

For breakdown, see GAO reports, for example ...

GAO-05-359, Financial Audit: Independent and Special Counsel Expenditures for the Six Months Ended September 30, 2004

GAO-05-961, Financial Audit: Independent and Special Counsel Expenditures for the Six Months Ended March 31, 2005

83 posted on 03/20/2006 4:15:04 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Thank you very much, Cboldt. I'll be following the links tonight to get more of a picture.

This is starting to remind me of that old song, "Nice work if you can get it...and you can get it if you try".......tra, la, la......

Leni

84 posted on 03/20/2006 4:20:55 PM PST by MinuteGal (Sail the Bounding Main to the Balmy, Palmy Caribbean on FReeps Ahoy 4. Register Now!)
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To: Wristpin
"This is a serious leak and the leaker will be punished,"

I don't recall the President ever saying that.

President Bush did lend gravitas to post-indictment activity ...

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
October 28, 2005

President's Remarks on the Resignation of Scooter Libby

3:51 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Today I accepted the resignation of Scooter Libby. Scooter has worked tirelessly on behalf of the American people and sacrificed much in the service to this country. He served the Vice President and me through extraordinary times in our nation's history.

Special Counsel Fitzgerald's investigation and ongoing legal proceedings are serious, and now the proceedings -- the process moves into a new phase. In our system, each individual is presumed innocent and entitled to due process and a fair trial. ...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051028-7.html


85 posted on 03/20/2006 4:29:50 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
That's nuanced...Obviously he made a political calculation to have libby resign. Same with Brown and offering Lott's head on a pike to the Dems.

Until I see a statement that Plame was in official covert status, I won't believe it.

I do believe that Joe Wilson's OPED pieces contained classified information. When the DEMs howled about the word "operative", Bush's staff ran for the bunkers. They have horrible, almost debilitating PR skills.
86 posted on 03/20/2006 4:37:30 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin
Until I see a statement that Plame was in official covert status, I won't believe it.

I don't believe it. I'm just trying to understand the dynamics that indicate why Fitz didn't "check up" on "covert or not" as a first matter, and think that the general tenor of being appointed, etc. plays into that.

I also say that Fitz has motive to not be fingered as a leaker, based on President Bush's public expressions that he considered the leak to be a serious matter.

When the DEMs howled about the word "operative", Bush's staff ran for the bunkers. They have horrible, almost debilitating PR skills.

Maybe somebody wanted to throw Libby under the bus - although there is no evidence to support that. I don't know the players, but my guess is that Libby was acting on his own judgment when (if) he decided to lead the investigation away from his factual knowledge that Plame worked at the CIA. Note that I am carefully using the same phrase that is in the indictment "worked at the CIA." Not "covert," or "calssified" or some other hocus pocus phrase. Just "worked at the CIA." Did Libby know that, for a fact? That's one aspect of the decision the jury will face, if the case goes all the way to trial.

87 posted on 03/20/2006 4:43:58 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Which has the effect of lending gravitas to the investigation.

How dare you invoke a vocable owned by the old media and used by them for the purpose of negatively assessing the character of President Bush! Fifty lashes with a kernable font!

Good post. I have little faith any proper resolution to this overly-amplified miscarriage of misdirected umbrage will ever be executed, let alone be published. At the same time my faith in liberal Democrat shenanigans remains wholly undiminished.

88 posted on 03/20/2006 4:58:10 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I have little faith any proper resolution to this overly-amplified miscarriage of misdirected umbrage will ever be executed, let alone be published.

The train has too much momentum to stop, at this point. Proper or not, there will be a resolution. I think, given the stakes (peanuts), the resolution will be proper.

At the same time my faith in liberal Democrat shenanigans remains wholly undiminished.

Rereading the Congressional Record from Sept 30, 2003 was a hoot.
Those whacky DEMs! Sure are tons of fun.

89 posted on 03/20/2006 5:05:11 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Wristpin
Until I see a statement that Plame was in official covert status, I won't believe it.

Covert types who operate in the interest of the United States ought to enjoy certain protections (and that means the ability to be kept from harm through any public announcement of their career) whether they are currently or historically active. My question is whether Plame and Wilson even operate(d) in the interest of the United States.

90 posted on 03/20/2006 5:06:38 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Homer1
"I hope Mr Libby has some good personal security. This defense is going to upset some powerful people."

Same might apply to some witnesses we only thought were 'powerful people".

91 posted on 03/20/2006 5:14:14 PM PST by norton
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Agree...His OPED pieces were misleading, and released classified info IMHO. Couple that with the fact that they had the media over to their home before the Novak story leads me to believe the were DNC partisans who put the party ahead of their country.


92 posted on 03/20/2006 5:17:36 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Cboldt

Whatever happens, it will not get much more press until the rules are set and the jury selection is in process.


93 posted on 03/20/2006 5:44:39 PM PST by NeonKnight (We don't believe you, you need more people.)
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To: American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; bannedfromdu; Beckwith; ...

Plame game....ping


94 posted on 03/20/2006 6:40:23 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: Peach

Ping


95 posted on 03/20/2006 6:40:51 PM PST by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Cboldt

Did it ever occur to you that what the president believed has nothing to do with the state of mind of the defendant? Further, is it possible that Bush was making a politically expedient statement after the fact so as not to fan the flames of outrage of politically motivated liberals?

The If you seem to think is so important is a rhetorical question. I'm sure you know what rhetorical means.

Well according to your democrats they argued that this was all about attacking the credibility of Wilson.


96 posted on 03/21/2006 11:03:30 AM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: Revolting cat!

'could care less', 'couldn't care less' - irregardless!
LOL


97 posted on 03/21/2006 11:06:29 AM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: street_lawyer
Did it ever occur to you that what the president believed has nothing to do with the state of mind of the defendant?

I never thought the President based his conclusion (whatever it is - you later seem to say the the Presindent doesn't really belive the investigation is serious, that he used the term as a mer rhetorical device) based on Libby's state of mind.

... is it possible that Bush was making a politically expedient statement after the fact so as not to fan the flames of outrage of politically motivated liberals?

Certainly. But whatever his reasoning for making the statement, the statement lends gravitas to Fitz's prosecution.

Well according to your democrats they argued that this was all about attacking the credibility of Wilson.

Wilson's credibility deserves to be attacked.

98 posted on 03/21/2006 11:42:44 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
I usually like to find something to agree on. In this case I believe we agree that all the President had to say is that the investigation is a partisan attempt to create a false impression that a crime was committed when clearly Ms.Plame's status is not protected against disclosure.
99 posted on 03/22/2006 9:15:05 AM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: street_lawyer

You are NOT wrong.

Almost everyone uses that phrase incorrectly.


100 posted on 03/22/2006 9:59:04 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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