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SQUABBLING GROUND ZERO DOLTS DESERVE EACH OTHER
NY Post ^ | 3/16/06 | Steve Cuozzo

Posted on 03/16/2006 6:15:18 AM PST by finnman69

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To: finnman69
Next time a rotten-mouthed dim claims Iraq is a failure because we have been there too long, just remind them that LIBS can't even rebuild two buildings destroyed on 9/11 (in a timely manner). Glen Beck quoted 2015 as the year they "think" construction will be completed... but this date is now in doubt!

LLS
21 posted on 03/16/2006 7:06:12 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

The real problem is that there is no demand for that much office space in Lower Manhattan these days, so even if the Freedom Tower had been completed two years ago it would still be 75% empty anyway.


22 posted on 03/16/2006 7:08:10 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: finnman69

Before I jump onto the bash Pataki band wagon....

I would REALLY welcome an investigative reporter to go in and find out WHY the WTC lease was transfered to Silverstein by Port Authority without tax payer knowledge or input just 2 months before 9/11.


23 posted on 03/16/2006 7:08:48 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Velveeta; firebrand; Fedora; Blurblogger; Coleus; backhoe; cyborg; wtc911; hineybona; Wuli; ...

ping


24 posted on 03/16/2006 7:10:08 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Quilla

All here

Go to SOM's site, then click projects, freedom tower

http://www.som.com/opener.cfm

pathetic that you have to go to the architect's website for the best presentation. Even the renewnyc.com website is a disaster


25 posted on 03/16/2006 7:11:21 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Give it to Trump.


26 posted on 03/16/2006 7:15:06 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Calpernia

I would REALLY welcome an investigative reporter to go in and find out WHY the WTC lease was transfered to Silverstein by Port Authority without tax payer knowledge or input just 2 months before 9/11.

???????

It was a very public major lease sale. And it was public well before July

http://money.cnn.com/2001/04/26/deals/wtc/index.htm

Owner of regional shopping malls joins Silverstein to buy 99-year WTC lease
NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Westfield America Inc. and developer Larry Silverstein inked an agreement Thursday for a 99-year lease of New York City's World Trade Center.

The deal culminates weeks of negotiations which began on March 19. The lease includes the famous 110-story twin towers in lower Manhattan, as well as 75 specialty stores and restaurants.

Press reports pegged the deal at $3.2 billion. In March, Silverstein began negotiating with the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey for the lease when a deal with Vornado Realty Trust fell through, the interactive version of the Wall Street Journal reported.

"The World Trade Center is one of the most prominent office and retail complexes in the world, and we look forward to putting our management, leasing and development experience to work at this premier property," said Westfield CEO Peter Lowy in a statement.

Terms of the deal call for Westfield to control 427,448 square feet of retail space while Silverstein will get the 10 million square foot office complex.

Los Angeles-based Westfield America (WEA: down $0.06 to $16.20, Research, Estimates) is one of the nation's leading owners of regional shopping malls.


27 posted on 03/16/2006 7:17:14 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Calpernia

also

Vornado signed a deal in February 2001 but pulled out.

http://www.forbes.com/2001/02/23/0223topnews.html

Top Of The News: World Trade Center Traded
Dan Ackman, Forbes.com, 02.23.01, 10:38 AM ET


NEW YORK - It was once the tallest building in the world and is still the tallest in New York City. But the World Trade Center has never excited the popular imagination the way the Empire State Building or the Chrysler Building, the previous world's tallest, have.


Yesterday, though, the twin towers were back in the record books when The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, a nontaxing public authority, sold it to Vornado Realty Trust (nyse: VNO - news - people) for $3.25 billion, the largest real estate deal ever for a single property.


The transaction is actually a 99-year lease for the two 110-story office buildings and the surrounding complex containing two other office buildings. Specifics of the deal, including how much Vornado would pay per year, were not disclosed. Port Authority Chairman Lewis Eisenberg said the agency has entered into a "20-day exclusive negotiating period" with Vornado to complete the contract and associated documents.


Since the first tower was finished in 1970, the World Trade Center has never been one of the prize locations in New York City. The World Financial Center, immediately to the west of the towers, has a much more prestigious client list.


But for those who seek to make a splash in Gotham--whether it's Philippe Petit, the master tightrope artist, who walked on a wire strung between the towers in 1974, or George Willig, the human fly, who scaled the exterior of the towers in 1977--the World Trade Center is a place to be. Even King Kong paid a visit in the pathetic 1976 sequel to the classic film that starred the Empire State Building.


The building faced a more tragic form of notoriety in 1993 when Middle Eastern terrorists exploded a bomb in the basement, killing six and injuring more than a thousand.


Vornado, a real estate investment trust based in New York, was one of three finalists in the bidding for the property, beating out groups headed by Silverstein Properties and Westfield America (nyse: WEA - news - people) and another headed by Brookfield Properties (nyse: BPO - news - people) and Boston Properties (nyse: BXP - news - people), according to reports. In December, Vornado lost out on a bid for Rockefeller Center, which was sold for $1.85 billion.


Prior to the Rockefeller Center sale, other New York landmarks like the Chrysler Building, the Seagram Building and the General Motors buildings all changed hands.


Vornado, with 1999 revenues of $697 million, claims to own all or part of 23 other office buildings in the New York area, totaling 15.6 million square feet. The World Trade Center lease, which does not include a Marriott hotel and two other office buildings in the complex, adds roughly 10 million square feet to that total.


The transaction "reaffirms Vornado's place as a premier owner of property in New York City," says Michael Laginestra, vice chairman of Insigia/ESG, a commercial real estate company based in New York.


The deal is complicated by several factors. Because the construction was financed with bonds issued by the Port Authority, there are legal restrictions on any sale, which required Vornado to lease rather than buy the complex. Since it is owned by the Port Authority, the city cannot impose the same property tax as it would on a privately owned structure; Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has insisted that it be placed more firmly on city tax rolls.


The property is a cash cow for the Port Authority, as officials have estimated that the buildings earn a profit of $120 million annually. But New Jersey Gov. Christie Whitman and New York Gov. George Pataki decided several years ago that the authority, which has an annual budget in excess of $3.6 billion, should focus on transportation rather than real estate. Now, the agency will get an annual lease payment without having to worry about the real estate rental market.


28 posted on 03/16/2006 7:20:03 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

I should have said vote vs. knowledge.


29 posted on 03/16/2006 7:35:20 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: finnman69

The towers should be rebuilt, but with a few extra floors for good measure. Each tower should be equipped with a Phalanx point defense system and a patriot missle launcher.


30 posted on 03/16/2006 9:55:33 AM PST by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: finnman69

Whatever it takes to prevent construction of the Big Gay Space Needle is just fine with me.

Don't replace the WTC, REBUILD it, with the Trump plan.


31 posted on 03/16/2006 9:58:09 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Calpernia
Thanks, Calpernia, but I have never been able to summon up the requisite interest in what happens at Ground Zero. It's considered important, in my opinion, only because it's where our nation was attacked, and the attack and our response to it are the important things, not (by association) the Ground Zero site.

We're like babies arguing about what cartoon Band-Aid to put on an act of war. Apologies to those who find this fascinating. Pataki is a corrupt patronage dispenser and that was true before 9/ll as well as after, so anything he fills with his hacks is going to be a mess.

33 posted on 03/16/2006 2:06:02 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Calpernia

I should amend that to say I was plenty po'd when they tried to put an anti-American museum in there.


34 posted on 03/16/2006 2:12:01 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Alberta's Child
classic New York City narcissistic Marxism

I agree with this much of your post, at least. Well said.

35 posted on 03/16/2006 3:15:34 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (...a capitalist.)
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