[CharlesWayneCT]

I hate this program. But that doesn't mean it is a "bad" program. I think it greatly benefits those it is meant to benefit.

So long as the phrase "Grandma had to give up her {X} to pay for medical treatment" is seen by the majority of americans as a bad thing, there is no incentive possible to keep us from socialized medicine. Because giving up "X" is exactly what would provide incentives for elderly to save for thier own care.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>I hate this program. But that doesn't mean it is a "bad" program.

You can't have it both ways. As a conservative I view this PDP the same way I view Social Security and Medicare. They're all "bad" programs. Period. All three are welfare entitlements that will continue to expand the federal bureaucracy. They have nothing to do with conservatism and limited government. Free Republic exists to advance conservatism and limited government, not theb other way around.