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To: SerpentDove
The details of your story are significant. A first grader is less likely to use a chain as a weapon than a sixth grader. A ten inch chain is a helluva lot different than a TweetyBird key chain.

Your point does not remain. It would show a complete inability to use any common sense to suspend a first grader for bring a key chain to school (your initial point) but rational adults can argue that a 10 inch chain can be used as a weapon, particularly by a streetwise sixth grader.

I don't consider a 10 inch chain a weapon in and of itself. I do understand that a 10 inch chain can be used as a weapon and would agree with a school that ban students from bringing a 10 inch chain to school.

You however are being rude. By accepting a conditional apology (mine based on the condition your story was correct) you are implying that your story was correct. It was not. Major points (the age of the child, the actual item brought to school) were completely wrong. You could have swallowed your pride and simply said, “Well, my memory isn't what it use to be.” or some such drivel, but instead you attempt to defend your story even though it is clearly wrong.

I am sorry if I hurt your feelings, but rational debate is based on facts not some distorted memory. I was even willing to let it slide but you feel obligated to defend your bruised honor.

I intentional stated I was not calling you a liar to provide you an opportunity to correct any errors you made. But even after your story is shown to be a gross distortion, you defend the error. Why? Just admit the facts of the story are not what you remembered and you posted inaccurate information.

Or tell me, do you consider a 1st and 6th grader the same thing and a 10 inch chain the same as the tiny chain on her Tweety Bird keychain?

273 posted on 03/12/2006 12:59:26 PM PST by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: dpa5923

Explain how that chain in the picture could be used as a weapon.

Would they slip it into sombody's milk at lunch time and hope they choke on it? Really, how could it possibly be a wepon? Tie a razor blade to the end of it? Explain.


275 posted on 03/12/2006 1:10:29 PM PST by DC Ripper
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To: dpa5923

Do you think that chain could be used as a weapon? DC asked and I don't see your answer. I would be curious myself .

I don't see how it could, myself.


276 posted on 03/12/2006 1:19:50 PM PST by Tarzan Stripes
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To: dpa5923
that a 10 inch chain can be used as a weapon, particularly by a streetwise sixth grader.

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If "can be used as a weapon" is the standard then ban pencils, pens, the spiral metal in the notebooks, rulers, compasses, and nearly everything found in a bookbag.

The problem here isn't the ten inch chain. The problem is the street wise child carrying the chain.

Hm,,,,I have a good idea!

Let parents choose private schools for their children. Then the non-streetwise child can get an education without having to worry about a 6th grade thug and her key chain.
281 posted on 03/12/2006 1:31:52 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: dpa5923; SerpentDove

How are you going to kill someone with that chain? Strangle them? Flail them?
In my school in holland some boys tended to bring knives at school and show them off, like 'i got a bigger knive then you' :).
I don't remember any teacher having problems with that or a student assaulting another with a knive on that school.

I heard violence is more common on the lower class schools though, but assault is the least of the problems there..
Anything goes in those places, there are even stories of female 'students' as prostitutes... I guess no country is perfect.


289 posted on 03/13/2006 2:10:10 AM PST by S0122017 (Ping! Ping!! Ping!!! MUHAHAHAHA Ping!!!! Ping!!!!! Ping!!!!!!)
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