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Bush: Ports Deal Collapse May Hurt U.S.
AP via yahoo.com ^ | March, 10 2006 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 03/10/2006 8:16:05 PM PST by crushelits

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To: Indy Pendance; ARCADIA

>>So, why aren't you president?<<

Did you say this to Clinton or Carter's critics? Seems the same logic would apply.


61 posted on 03/10/2006 9:15:49 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: John Valentine

Since you evidently think the President is an adult, then I presume you side with the folks that have utter disgust at the way those in Congress have conducted themselves? If so, Good.

Perhaps I should have placed a warning on my post that I was merely regurgitaing all the trash coming from so many "lips" since this began. But then again, I thought it was self evident given my other posts have been nothing but vitriolic toward those that have equated the UAE qith Osama bin Ladin. Hence, my new tagline.


62 posted on 03/10/2006 9:16:31 PM PST by Soul Seeker (House Republicans Send a message: All Arabs are Genetically pre-disposed to terrorism)
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To: SerpentDove

So why wasn't he president during those terms?


63 posted on 03/10/2006 9:17:02 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: McGavin999
but the only way smaller companies will be able to compete will be if they cut costs (employees) and instead go mechanical

And you would prevent them?

They don't want to increase the Coast Guards budget

Yes it is the point. The "free traders" have been screaming... don't worry about the UAE, the Coast Guard has our back. Well, frankly they don't, they are being cut back even more. National security is not JOB 1 with this administration, not in anyone's wildest fantasy.
64 posted on 03/10/2006 9:17:39 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: oceanview
a state owned arab company here

It's not the Arab part, it's the muslim part, in the end, rightfully.

65 posted on 03/10/2006 9:18:45 PM PST by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect, it wouldn't have included the Senate.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Reagan wasn't the "Great Communicator" in '87 and '88.

During Iran Contra and other problems.

Conservatives have been re-writing history and it's time that ended.

Good man, Great President, but communication couldn't spare him in the latter half of his second term.


66 posted on 03/10/2006 9:19:20 PM PST by Soul Seeker (House Republicans Send a message: All Arabs are Genetically pre-disposed to terrorism)
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To: Indy Pendance



>>So why wasn't he president during those terms?<<

Because ice cream doesn't have bones.

???


67 posted on 03/10/2006 9:20:21 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: Soul Seeker

>>Reagan wasn't the "Great Communicator" in '87 and '88.During Iran Contra and other problems. Conservatives have been re-writing history and it's time that ended.
<<

During Iran Contra, threatened with impeachment, President Reagan saved his own bacon with a direct address to the American people. And it worked.

And that's the way it was.


68 posted on 03/10/2006 9:23:02 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: ohioWfan

"The death of reason is never a praiseworthy thing......"

I dont know how you became so confused but you did. Reason prevailed in this case and is certainly praise worthy.

While you might like having a bunch of muslims frollicking around our strategic ports, most of us with reason figure this not brilliant idea at this time. Why you ask? Well as a lil reminder to the so challenged, we are currently at war with some muslims. We're spending billions fighting some muslims. Grandma is getting her anal cavity explored at the airport because we are at war with some muslims.
Members of our armed forces are being killed almost daily because we are fighting a war against some muslims.

Methinks it is you that needs correcting.


69 posted on 03/10/2006 9:24:11 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: SerpentDove

Are you for camp fires or do you just enjoy root canals?


70 posted on 03/10/2006 9:24:21 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: hedgetrimmer
When in wartime did the US ever let a foreign entity have access to our coast?

You are kidding, right? Start from the Revolutionary war and go forward.

The poster said the Prez should drop this. I said after you insult an ally by comparing them to head choppers and folks that ram planes in our buildings, the subject ain't going to go away just cause some folks have tired of it after their temper tantrum got them their way.

Your response? Trade deficits. I'm not even going to attempt to track your thought process in how you got from point A to unrelated point B, other than the knowledge you needed a lead in to your set upon talking point and chose the wrong quote to usher you there.

71 posted on 03/10/2006 9:26:25 PM PST by Soul Seeker (House Republicans Send a message: All Arabs are Genetically pre-disposed to terrorism)
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To: Indy Pendance

;-)


72 posted on 03/10/2006 9:26:51 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: SerpentDove; McGavin999
I was addressing the general conditions which McGavin rightly pointed out, which were different when Reagan was President than are present now, with the press, and with the culture.

Regardless of communication skills of the individuals, it is not a level playing field for comparison, making your 'Reagan did fine' an unfair assessment.

(Personally, I think the PR in this particular situation was bad, but I think the main problem is that, since the media lies about everything he says anyway, he just doesn't bother trying to communicate through the media. If you want to hear what he has to say, listen to his speeches. He communicates very well there).

73 posted on 03/10/2006 9:27:47 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: SerpentDove

I just thank our maker every day for wax paper!


74 posted on 03/10/2006 9:28:48 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: takenoprisoner
Members of our armed forces are being killed almost daily because we are fighting a war against some muslims.

Reality check:

Members of our armed forces are fighting side by side with Muslim allies against radical Islam.

75 posted on 03/10/2006 9:29:43 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Indy Pendance

And if our knees bent the other way, what would a chair look like?

Okay, I stole that from Gallagher.

:-)


76 posted on 03/10/2006 9:29:51 PM PST by SerpentDove (The internet is big. "Oprah" big.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
What exactly do we trade with the UAE ?

Best that it was explained to me, toothpaste and Egyptian tapestries. Probably there are some high technology fiber optic components. Glass is made from sand and heat.

77 posted on 03/10/2006 9:30:29 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: SerpentDove
Congress to UAE: Can You Hear Me Now?
78 posted on 03/10/2006 9:30:29 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I don't agree with that. Remember, congress controls the purse strings. Bush sends up a budget and then the congress critters cut things he wants and add things THEY want. The only way he gets around it is by supplimentals for the war. Do you want to short change the guys who are over there in direct combat?

I realize how important the Coast Guard is, maybe we should make sure congress realizes it as well. It's about time someone educates them about how the ports work.

And no, I wouldn't stop the companies from mechanizing. I just seriously doubt they will have the capital to do it AND purchase the contracts. The outcome will be to attempt to meet the obligations on the cheap. We all know what the results of that will be.

79 posted on 03/10/2006 9:31:17 PM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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To: takenoprisoner
I'm not a bit confused. Every fact pointed to the rightness of this deal. Only emotions pointed away from it.

I prefer to have our Congress make its decisions based on reason, and not on hysteria, or fear of not being reelected.

All the things you stated in making your case are based on your feelings about Muslims, and your confusion in thinking that 'they are all alike.' But thanks for making my point.

80 posted on 03/10/2006 9:31:23 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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