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Goodbye, Dubai (Protectionists Rejoice)
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 10, 2006 | The Editors

Posted on 03/10/2006 10:28:49 AM PST by RWR8189

PROTECTIONISTS, REJOICE! The dastardly United Arab Emirates company that would have presumed to unload containers of underwear and toothpaste on U.S. soil has backed down, and it will now divest its U.S. port interests to an American entity. Rest assured, the nation is now safe from dangerous Middle Eastern accountants and port logistics specialists.

Dubai Ports World did what was necessary, if not necessarily fair, on Thursday by agreeing to give up the U.S. operations of its newly acquired British ports company. The House Appropriations Committee had voted 62 to 2 on Wednesday to block the deal; a similar bill was pending in the Senate.

Although President Bush rightly stood by the acquisition and vowed to veto any bill that stood in its way, he was fighting a losing battle that only deepened a growing rift in the Republican Party. Dubai Ports World officials wisely recognized that they had to put some distance between themselves and their new U.S. assets. The company probably will sell its U.S. assets or create a U.S. company with a separate board to run them.

Much as we wish it would go away, the fight may not be over yet.

For one, the terms of the divestiture remain unclear, and some members of Congress are demanding more details. Will it be enough for Dubai Ports World to create a U.S. subsidiary? Will it have to open headquarters in the United States? Pay its employees in dollars?

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appeasemuslimsnow; dpworld; dubai; dubaidubya; editoralintitle; frplaystheracecard; fuggedaboudit; godnotagain; muslims; portgate; ports; protectionism; sellingoutamerica; whineyglobalists
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To: Dominic Harr
Isn't making policy decisions based on feelings what *use* to be considered a hallmark of liberal Ds?

Perhaps, but Ronald Reagan, and Donald Trump have both preached the axiom "Always trust your gut", I'm sure that others of varying political philosophies have followed that same advise.
301 posted on 03/10/2006 2:46:11 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (No animals were harmed during the creation of this post.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Perhaps, but Ronald Reagan, and Donald Trump have both preached the axiom "Always trust your gut", I'm sure that others of varying political philosophies have followed that same advise.

Do you think both of them would say to go with your gut even when the evidence says otherwise?

What % of the time would you say gut feelings are correct?

302 posted on 03/10/2006 2:47:26 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: thinkthenpost

If you interpt my words incorrectly, that's your problem, not mine. Have a nice evening. I'm off to another thread to see if the sky has fallen or that it is 1929 all over again because the deal was killed.


303 posted on 03/10/2006 2:48:16 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: MamaB
I would rather believe ohiowfan than you on any topic.

And this is supposed to be persuasive?

If you note, she hasn't posted any proofs, yet claims she has. She started the postings on this thread with her own bloviating personal insults, and once again demeaned Ronald Reagan if you noticed.

She can't have anyone make any favorable comparisons relative to W, apparently. And for the record, if you were keeping track, no, I don't think W is a 'demon.' Voted for him twice for Pete's sake. So Hardly. I have many, many, many conservative doubts about him...as does every sincere, authentic "Barry Goldwater Republican"...who should thereby be a conservative...

But manifestly OWF is an unlikely candidate to fit that profile.

Note how swiftly she piled onto my remark about Big Tent moderates who are so self-righteous, showing their ugly nature ...and she promptly wore that shoe as her own!

All while casting stones at your's truly.

So believe in her...if you want to believe in lies.

304 posted on 03/10/2006 2:48:29 PM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: pbrown
I'm off to another thread to see if the sky has fallen or that it is 1929 all over again because the deal was killed.

Bailing?

No answer to my point about running from nothing?

Understood.

Someday, perhaps not too far away, the opponents of this deal are gonna wake up and cringe at what they've done.

305 posted on 03/10/2006 2:50:25 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
Do you think both of them would say to go with your gut even when the evidence says otherwise?

I know Trump would, he even said so in his first book. No matter how much evidence there was to the contrary, if it didn't feel right for any reason or no reason at all he would opt out.
Hence the term 'Always trust your gut'
306 posted on 03/10/2006 2:51:35 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (No animals were harmed during the creation of this post.)
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To: MamaB
You are the one who needs to get out of the kitchen.

LOL!

My wife and family say the same thing!

They just won't touch my finest creations!

They make the exaggerated claim that Electric stoves are my nemesis...

307 posted on 03/10/2006 2:52:32 PM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I know Trump would, he even said so in his first book.

Ah -- Trump, well . . . I like the show 'the apprentice', but let's just say I'm not sure I consider him a good example of wise judgement.

Seriously, the idea that your gut feeling is never wrong . . . man, is it possible you've never been wrong about a hunch?

I'm pretty good, and I shoot maybe 75%, when I am very experienced with the topic.

Which *none* of us are.

So when you have a topic you've never even looked into before, and you then do some quick reading, what % chance do you think you might nail the exact right take on 'gut' feelings?

Pretty low.

And again, isn't that exactly what we've been saying about the Ls all these years? "Feelings" are more important than "evidence and reason"?

"The lack of evidence doesn't matter, it's the nature of the charges that's important!?"

308 posted on 03/10/2006 2:57:05 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
What % of the time would you say gut feelings are correct?

I'd give it about 50/50 but I concede no statistical evidence to support it, it's just a gut feeling.
309 posted on 03/10/2006 2:57:13 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (No animals were harmed during the creation of this post.)
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To: pbrown
If you interpt my words incorrectly, that's your problem, not mine. Have a nice evening.

Touche' you got 'em! Good show!

I'm off to another thread to see if the sky has fallen or that it is 1929 all over again because the deal was killed.

That sounds like an excellent suggestion, especially as we are seeing vicious and frankly shrewish name-callers suddenly pile on at the end of the thread...who are of dubious authenticity. 'Bots.

310 posted on 03/10/2006 2:57:29 PM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: Paul Ross; MamaB
Oh, dear...........I wasn't going to reply to you........btw, you broke FR rules by not pinging me to that post...........but I have to correct some lies you told.

Number one........you went on and on and on about a book you were writing about how magnificent Reagan was and how awful Bush was. I can find the posts if you need the proof.

Secondly, I said absolutely nothing bad about Reagan. It is a common characteristic of Bush bashers to look at Reagan through rose colored glasses and ignore his failings, and to ignore Bush's accomplishments and ignore his successes. Paul did that BIG time.

Both Reagan and Bush are/were amazing, strong, solid leaders.......both should be admired by any real conservative. Neither is/was perfect. Neither should be demonized by conservatives, as Bush is every day on this forum.

I don't need to defend my conservative credentials to someone like Paul. They stand for themselves, and my history is long and solid as a conservative.

I am not even close to being a 'moderate,' and the proof of that is that the thread on which I first had the misfortune of running into the braggart, Paul Ross, was on a thread about abortion. There is no area of the political realm in which I can be called a 'moderate.'

So, Paul.......cut it out. But if you insist on lying about me, please have the courtesy to ping me, as per FR rules.

311 posted on 03/10/2006 2:57:52 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I'd give it about 50/50 but I concede no statistical evidence to support it, it's just a gut feeling.

And so you've supported killing this deal on a 50/50 hunch?

312 posted on 03/10/2006 2:59:12 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr

Yes


313 posted on 03/10/2006 3:00:07 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (No animals were harmed during the creation of this post.)
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To: Dominic Harr; HEY4QDEMS; pbrown
When it comes down to the bottom line, that's all there are........feelings.

I just wish they'd admit that it's a weak basis on which to make political, or economic decisions.

314 posted on 03/10/2006 3:01:30 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Yes

Wow.

I mean -- gosh. You can't be . . . wow.

Nuff said, I suppose.

So the R party is not the party of reason and evidence any longer.

315 posted on 03/10/2006 3:02:33 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: ohioWfan
I just wish they'd admit that it's a weak basis on which to make political, or economic decisions.

I'm shocked they are admitting it so blatantly.

It's as if they are unaware of how bad that is.

I'm truly, completely shocked at these last few admissions.

316 posted on 03/10/2006 3:03:45 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: MamaB

This is a debate forum, not a coffee klatsch. If you can't stand the heat .... :-)


317 posted on 03/10/2006 3:06:04 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: All
Ciao, for now.

I have to go have an adult beverage and contemplate the 'conservatives' who have said in so many words that they are willing to make policy decisions based on hunches and feelings, even when the evidence goes the other way.

"It's not the nature of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charges."

Just -- wow.

318 posted on 03/10/2006 3:06:21 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
I'm truly, completely shocked at these last few admissions.

The only thing that can be said for it, is that it's honest. Otherwise, there's not a thing conservative about it.

I'm leaving as well. Nice doing battle with you. You're a smart one, you are. :)

319 posted on 03/10/2006 3:11:52 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: mlc9852
I have looked around. How many countries in the ME support Israel or even their right to exist?

As has been pointed out before, the UAE and Israel actually ahve some trade, and Israel was a supporter of this deal.

320 posted on 03/10/2006 3:55:47 PM PST by CA Conservative
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