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Dubai threat to hit back (UAE Threatens Against Boeing and US Bases Support)
The Hill.com ^ | March 9, 2006 | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze

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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
>>>Can you say Visa Express?
Sure, it's easy to pronounce.
Does having a foreign country own a port operating company nullify the authority of either The Coast Guard or the Port Authority to exercise the policing powers of the state? I wish it did. They both work for the DHS, America's worst and most incompetent government agency. I'd almost trust the Sultan of Brunai to do a better job.
1,081 posted on 03/09/2006 12:13:29 PM PST by .cnI redruM (We need to banish euphemisms. Period. In fact, we need to employ hyperbole when possible.)
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To: Howlin

You are now employing the slippery slope fallacy into your argument.

I see; asking you a flat out question is now characterized as "slipper slope."

Ignorant.



Hey, you just validated my point in post 1022 twice.

Re:
Ad hominem
Slippery slope


1,082 posted on 03/09/2006 12:14:06 PM PST by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: Junior_G
Not at all. It's his same closet-racism nationalistic tendencies that are being exhibited by the very people actively opposing the port deal. The folks that helped create the extreme reaction to this deal are the same folks hoping the US starts gunning down Mexicans on the border and going house to house doing mass arrests of illegals.

Buchanan failed in his protectionist efforts in the early 90's. But it gave birth to the modern day Mexican bounty hunters who oppose anything having to do with something other than a lilly-white foreigner.

1,083 posted on 03/09/2006 12:15:18 PM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Junior_G

Recognize yourself?


1,084 posted on 03/09/2006 12:15:22 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

;-)


1,085 posted on 03/09/2006 12:15:34 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Cold Heat
"so then you will either stay home or vote third party."

While never a big fan of Bush (except first run for Texas govenor) I've voted for him every time (in the general). So no I don't vote third party and I don't stay home, that seems to be your thing.

1,086 posted on 03/09/2006 12:15:37 PM PST by jpsb
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To: bondjamesbond
There is no reason to deal with the US if we're going to be a bunch of jerks.

Hate America first. Disgusting. Just because we played better hardball. This thing is far from over, and the UAE sellouts and dhimmi's got sour grapes.

1,087 posted on 03/09/2006 12:15:59 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: megaLane

They can buy all the Crashbuses they want.


1,088 posted on 03/09/2006 12:16:04 PM PST by LenS
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To: dynoman

Certainly the LAST thing we want is to listen to someone who might actually KNOW something. That would interfere with joining the rampaging mob.


1,089 posted on 03/09/2006 12:16:14 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: prairiebreeze

This is what our Country gets for listening a bunch of arsewipe scardey cat nancy girls and allowing so many inexperienced idiots into offices which they are not qualified to hold.

Better hang on, folks, it's gonna get worse than this.


:O)

P


1,090 posted on 03/09/2006 12:16:34 PM PST by papasmurf (Join Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Team # 36120)
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To: Jhohanna
They shut down the ring and better enforced their existing law against it.

Apparently we were satisfied with the results.

Yes, I do know what they do to camel jockeys.

It is an age old practice and they were failing to completely control it.

Now they are and I wonder if they are now questioning their cooperation with us.

Just a thought..........

1,091 posted on 03/09/2006 12:16:58 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Rutles4Ever
I disagree with you, but that was funny.

Cool! Neither you nor I can change what has just happened but there's no reason we can't enjoy what we're doing. ; )

1,092 posted on 03/09/2006 12:17:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Everywhere I look all I see are my own desires.)
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To: CygnusXI
Guess we always have to agree with Bush no matter what huh.

That's the beautiful thing about being American... NO ONE can tell me how to think and decide and agree with. I get to chose. And I can't be shot for making that choice! *weeeee*!

Somehow, that got forgotten in this whole mess. Look, the Congresscritters responded to the outrage of the PEOPLE. Believe me, they have been being hammered! We want representation, we got it. Now if only they will get off their duffs and figure out this border thing and start locking *it* down... I might be able to sleep at night. (12 miles from said border)
1,093 posted on 03/09/2006 12:18:23 PM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: George W. Bush

Well, George, it looks like the "people" have spoken and you have listened. Thanks!


1,094 posted on 03/09/2006 12:18:29 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Rutles4Ever

You said -- "We have the ability to stop them. It has nothing to do with a port in Dubai."

I'm not entirely sure about that from a political standpoint. I already see what trouble it was to go to war in Iraq and I wonder if people would see another war as something necessary. Iran is probably counting on it not being politically viable. And that's why it's important to have the UAE in the equation. It makes it much more of a politically viable situation if we are protecting our interests and the interests of those who are supporting us. That's much better than going into some sort of an Iran conflict with no other "interests" in the region (plus the support that those interests give us).

And also you said -- "It's not working, if that's the case. Iran magically circumvented our steel curtain in Dubai and is building nuclear weaponry anyway."

They were going to attempt that no matter what -- because of the radical and rabid nature of Islam and how dedicated they are to it. In fact, I would say that us going into Iraq probably made their attempt more certain.

If they didn't make a move towards "the bomb" -- they would be minimized as a regional power and also in their ability to "take out" Israel -- which seems to be the whole aim of their religious government. I think the only way we're going to stop this now is militarily -- and that's why we need to be in the UAE.

And, you said -- "How will this stop Iran from launching a nuclear missile at Israel? And how does NOT having it prevent us from firing off a nuclear missile from a sub outside the gulf if Tehran decided do just that?"

The U.S. (and Israel) will be attempting to stop Iran before it gets to that point. That seems to be the stance of both the U.S. and Israel. And the fact of the matter is that the U.S. does not want to find itself launching a nuclear missile at Iran. That would open up a firestorm around the world and in Islamic countries. That would be a doomsday scenario and that's not going to happen from the U.S. side.

And -- "I understand what you're saying, but we have a massive base of operations in Baghdad already. You think Iran isn't a little queasy about that? Dubai won't make them any queasier. We can drive our tanks right over the border and go straight to the Capital."

I think Iran is looking at what we're doing in Iraq as "tying us down" rather than anything else. Where do you think all these attacks are coming from in Iraq? It's coming from Iran. Iran is the one who is stirring up the trouble in Iraq. They're doing this to tie us down and give us a big headache. And they seem to be doing a pretty good job of it, too.

The more they tie us down in Iraq, the less they have to worry about any of those units being free to roll into Iran.






At this point it looks like the Administration has cut another deal with the UAE and things will settle down now with the port deal. It was a stupid "tempest in a teapot" in the first place, stirred up, primarily, by the Democrats, as a political footbal (and joined by some idiotic Republicans).

So, I would say that most of this will go away now -- with this new "quid pro quo" that the Bush Administration has made with the UAE. It looks like Bush has done an "end run" around this whole thing, now.

Regards,
Star Traveler


1,095 posted on 03/09/2006 12:18:49 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Solson

Soooo... I take it you're against racial profiling at the airport?

What about direct flights from Tehran? That could bring a lot of business to our airports and maybe even give us an entirely new trading partner who could use our ports.


1,096 posted on 03/09/2006 12:18:52 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: TigersEye

So Arabs won't trust us? LOL That's funny.


1,097 posted on 03/09/2006 12:19:09 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Florida was the "home" of many of the 911 terrorists. Florida had financial institutions which aided their ability to move funds within this country and to receive funds from their terror bosses abroad. Terrorists traveled at will within the United States. Bin Laden has relatives within the United States.

So how exactly is the UAE different?


1,098 posted on 03/09/2006 12:19:20 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: TigersEye

I read your post. I'm merely referring to countries in the region we can transfer our associations to easily.

Then, I went on to state that the UAE will not go through the divestment because they couldn't stand the hit from losing multiple billions from the US.

Did you read that last point before you wrote to me?


1,099 posted on 03/09/2006 12:19:25 PM PST by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: Solson
EVERY person on FR who opposes this Dubai deal is also in favor on constructing a bigass wall along the mexican border.

I wouldn't say every person.

It looks like you live as far away from the Mexican border as possible. I wonder if you might feel differently living in a border state and seeing with your own eyes the results of the one million illegal aliens who have crossed over each year since Bush entered office.

1,100 posted on 03/09/2006 12:21:11 PM PST by Borax Queen
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