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To: Pukin Dog; Hill of Tara
You are not going to ever see a situation where one Raptor is alone against 20 enemy aircraft, all of them fighters.

I can image one scenario where this situation could possibly play out.

And that would be a Chinese mass assault on Taiwan.

A huge wave with a little of everything they have from Mig21's (out of the bone yard lightly loaded with guns and ground attack rockets) to the lasted and greatest fighters they have. ECM aircraft, Blinders and BackFires coming in supersonic on the waters deck, surface to surface missile assault and so on.

Call me an idiot if you want, but say why too. You cant absolutely deny such a scenario can you?

Wolf
27 posted on 03/06/2006 6:33:52 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
I think that is a possible scenario, but in order for the Chinese to mass all that capability and prepare it for a strike they are going to have to telegraph their intentions for several days (we keep a pretty close watch on where they keep their toys). With that in mind, it is unlikely the F-22's will face that incoming wall alone. For starters, the Taiwanese Air Force is very capable. Their pilots are very motivated, well trained, and they have excellent equipment. Couple that with a carrier air wing or two and additional aircraft operating out of Japan and instead of F-22's standing alone against the world, you use your F-22's to target specific high value targets which will cripple that incoming Chinese hoard by severing its vital command and control networks. Then you have them pick off the most capable Chinese fighters, while our more conventional air assets concentrate on the less capable second generation Chinese fighters.

just my thoughts anyway...

34 posted on 03/06/2006 6:43:57 PM PST by Rokke
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To: RunningWolf
You cant absolutely deny such a scenario can you?

Yes.

What, you think we don't watch China by satellite 24/7? Do you have any idea what it would take to stage such an attack? Long before they were ready to go, our subs would be parked in every major water way, ready to sink any ship that moved. Then the President calls China and asks if they really want to dance.

Come on.

39 posted on 03/06/2006 6:47:27 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: RunningWolf

"A huge wave with a little of everything they have from Mig21's (out of the bone yard lightly loaded with guns and ground attack rockets) to the lasted and greatest fighters they have. ECM aircraft, Blinders and BackFires coming in supersonic on the waters deck, surface to surface missile assault and so on.

Call me an idiot if you want, but say why too. You cant absolutely deny such a scenario can you?"

I could definitely see such a scenario. The Chinese have tons of aircraft. They have around 1,000 MiG-21s of various configurations, from the "Vanilla J-7" with only 2 hardpoints to the more capable MiG-21 variants like the regular J-7 and the J-8I/II.

Then they have 150 Su-30 MKK, about 200 Su-27s (plus around 160+ more being built) and maybe 100 J-10s, with more J-10s entering service each year. Apparently, the PLAAF has opted not to acquire the FC-1.

Then there are almost 1,500 MiG-19s (extremely old but in such huge numbers, formidable) and about 470 ancient planes used for training but still combat capable, mostly MiG-17s.

Finally there are 120 obsolete Tu-16 bombers.

That's 3,000 planes. Even if all our Raptors were on Taiwan they'd be outnumbered more than 16-1.

And thats not counting ones possibly destroyed by the Chinese missile strikes on Taiwan before the ChiCom AF arrives.


40 posted on 03/06/2006 6:49:58 PM PST by Hill of Tara
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