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Hate-filled Muslim returns
The Sun ^ | 3/6/06

Posted on 03/06/2006 12:14:08 AM PST by iPod Shuffle

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To: iPod Shuffle
Hate-filled Muslim/iI>

The other type, of course is very rare.

21 posted on 03/06/2006 4:52:48 AM PST by JAWs (Ytringsfrihed er ytringsfrihed er ytringsfrihed. Der er intet men.)
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To: Kelly_2000

It's very simple really - he's a UK citizen and as a UK citizen he has a right to return to the UK, a right to claim benefits where applicable and a right to free speech including criticising Britain.

I gather that the intell services consider him a low threat a bit of a Walter Mitty character. They will have approved his access back into the country without detention because they want him to be here - presumably it's cheaper to pay him £52 a week to stay here and be watched than spend thousands sending someone to Pakistan to watch him. . .


22 posted on 03/06/2006 4:57:36 AM PST by albionvectis
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To: albionvectis
"It's very simple really - he's a UK citizen and as a UK citizen he has a right to return to the UK, a right to claim benefits where applicable and a right to free speech including criticising Britain. "

so how does a known terror suspect gain immigrant status in the UK with this kind of a past history? Also no one has criticized his rights and liberties just that you allow someone with this past history into the country

23 posted on 03/06/2006 5:13:59 AM PST by Kelly_2000 ( Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Kelly_2000

He's not an immigrant - he was born here and lived a perfectly normal life until 1999 when he decided radical islam was for him.

I am not defending his alleged actions or associations, but when he is British by birth and insufficient evidence exists against him to prosecute him, he can not be refused entry simply because he may hold anti-British views or consorts with others who do.


24 posted on 03/06/2006 5:25:44 AM PST by albionvectis
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To: albionvectis
"He's not an immigrant - he was born here and lived a perfectly normal life until 1999 when he decided radical islam was for him. "

Ah OK thanks I never knew that

"I am not defending his alleged actions or associations, but when he is British by birth and insufficient evidence exists against him to prosecute him, he can not be refused entry simply because he may hold anti-British views or consorts with others who do."

But he did serve time in Pakistan yes? if that is the case and the crime involves terrorism in the UK surely the Home Office would have the option to revoke his UK nationality assuming he has dual citizenship in Pakistan of course

25 posted on 03/06/2006 5:31:31 AM PST by Kelly_2000 ( Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: LeoWindhorse

And he is living off their tax dollars...it's akin to us giving scholarships to Muslims to come study nuclear physics and other subjects in the US.


26 posted on 03/06/2006 5:43:50 AM PST by Tulane
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To: Kelly_2000

I'm not sure if the UK has a law that would allow them to revoke citizenship...I know they considered such, but I don't remember if it was ever passed into law.


27 posted on 03/06/2006 5:45:04 AM PST by Tulane
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To: son of caesar
You need to grammer check no. 28.

I think you need to read through all of them again. (Hint, each one is guilty of violating its own rule).

28 posted on 03/06/2006 5:47:58 AM PST by RogueIsland (.)
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To: proxy_user; Kelly_2000
If they let him back in there may be a good reason, it may be a oversight, we don't know.

Lets put it this way as a potential terrorist he would be a liability, depends on how professional any potential terrorist group based in the UK is.

29 posted on 03/06/2006 5:50:05 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: iPod Shuffle
"In the past he has said he wants to be an Islamic martyr...."

No problem, Just step onto this plastic tarp here.

We aim to please

30 posted on 03/06/2006 5:54:47 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: tonycavanagh

Why not escort him to the UK border (with the Irish Sea) ?


31 posted on 03/06/2006 5:55:46 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: iPod Shuffle; butternut_squash_bisque

UK gets no sympathy from me


32 posted on 03/06/2006 5:59:30 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Tulane
"I'm not sure if the UK has a law that would allow them to revoke citizenship...I know they considered such, but I don't remember if it was ever passed into law."

OK thanks for the update :-)

33 posted on 03/06/2006 6:03:06 AM PST by Kelly_2000 ( Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: tonycavanagh
"If they let him back in there may be a good reason, it may be a oversight, we don't know."

Well judging by how surprised they were concerning the 7/7 bombings it may be safe to assume there is an oversight

"Lets put it this way as a potential terrorist he would be a liability, depends on how professional any potential terrorist group based in the UK is."

People unable to land a plane just take it off.These from a backward 3rd world country managed to crash airplanes into the twin towers with no more weaponry than a box cutting knife or two..

34 posted on 03/06/2006 6:27:58 AM PST by Kelly_2000 ( Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Kelly_2000

'But he did serve time in Pakistan yes? if that is the case and the crime involves terrorism in the UK surely the Home Office would have the option to revoke his UK nationality assuming he has dual citizenship in Pakistan of course'

The law in Pakistan is somewhat more flexible in terms of the burden of proof required for guilt to be established than in a British court. Legally it is not possible to revoke the citizenship of someone British, born in Britain and of British parents. I strongly suspect that if the home office have not charged him, it is because they have insufficient proof, or they see more value in observing his next move.


35 posted on 03/06/2006 6:43:47 AM PST by albionvectis
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To: sure_fine

Good job we're not looking for any then. America has my greatest sympathy for the terrorists outrages it have suffered recently.


36 posted on 03/06/2006 6:45:12 AM PST by albionvectis
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To: iPod Shuffle
".........live on benefits.........."

You get what you pay for, I guess.

37 posted on 03/06/2006 6:46:09 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Tulane
...it's akin to us giving scholarships to Muslims to come study nuclear physics and other subjects in the US.

Of course, we'd never do that, like let someone from the Taliban attend Yale now, would we? / sarcasm off...

38 posted on 03/06/2006 6:55:44 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: albionvectis

OK got it thanks :-)


39 posted on 03/06/2006 8:27:44 AM PST by Kelly_2000 ( Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Candor7
"In the past he has said he wants to be an Islamic martyr...."

Wouldn't it be cool if the "Make A Wish Foundation" hired a couple of ex Green Berets to make his dream come true?

40 posted on 03/06/2006 11:17:30 AM PST by iPod Shuffle
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