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Illegal Immigrants Also Illicit Drivers (Illegal kills Tampa Mayor's Police driver)
Tampa Tribune ^ | 03/03/2006 | CHRIS ECHEGARAY

Posted on 03/04/2006 5:45:12 AM PST by devane617

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To: stopem

BTTT


21 posted on 03/04/2006 7:01:52 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: starbase

I have had those sentiments quite strongly myself.


22 posted on 03/04/2006 7:07:30 AM PST by thoughtomator (I understand Democrats' impatience; If Kerry were President, Iran would have nuked Israel by now)
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To: panthermom
If our government had any stones, they would have 18 wheelers there waiting to round them all up and get em outta here.

If the American people had any stones, they would have 18 wheelers waiting at the white house and capitol hill waiting to round them (politicians) all up and hauling their collective a**es out of office............traitors all!!!

23 posted on 03/04/2006 7:09:35 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: bwteim
"I am NOT in favor of current border "policy" - I agree with you. Just trying to follow your logic: tying in drunk driving with illegal immigrants and jobs overseas and blaming it all on Bush."

The fact that he was drunk is only a sideline of the problem.
The problem is that the US is letting ILLEGALS run all over the country and doing nothing about it... See:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1589879/posts?page=9
24 posted on 03/04/2006 7:12:57 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: bwteim; devane617
Gee, for a moment I thought I was on DU.

For a moment I thought I was in America, until our laws were no longer enforced. Then I realized I was in Corporate Land.
25 posted on 03/04/2006 7:14:46 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: varon

I totally agree with you. Although I would probably let Tancredo hang around. Most of the people at the capitol hate him so he's doing something right.


26 posted on 03/04/2006 7:17:26 AM PST by panthermom
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To: EverOnward
Sadly, I agree with your post #9

Yes, it is sad. Don't think I say any of that lightly, I don't. That's the result of six years, six years of betrayal, and I mean betrayal. No more, I don't like Bush anymore and I wish a new president were in the White House.
27 posted on 03/04/2006 7:17:43 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: AlexW; devane617; starbase

Yes, I read that post. Upsetting to say the least.
" [all] later released after the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Department refused to deal with them."


28 posted on 03/04/2006 7:17:44 AM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: gubamyster

ping


29 posted on 03/04/2006 7:19:37 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: thoughtomator
I have had those sentiments quite strongly myself.

I think all of us have. I don't know why I just blurted it out tonight, I guess my BS limit just snapped. Otherwise I have been bending over backwards to pretend it's not true for so long that I just can't do it anymore, and don't want to.
30 posted on 03/04/2006 7:20:03 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: devane617

Pam and my wife are acquaintances. This just devastated Pam, she was heartbroken. Not only was he her bodyguard and driver, he was her friend and confidant.

Pity she is a Democrat and dines with $cientology cult representatives like Tom Cruise.


31 posted on 03/04/2006 7:31:41 AM PST by rwb.usa
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To: devane617
changing the law would decrease hit-and-run accidents, require undocumented immigrants to learn the rules of the road and allow them to insure their cars.

Rules,laws and auto insurance are only for us stupid gringos.

32 posted on 03/04/2006 7:34:26 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: starbase

What can Bush do? how about congress what are they doing see how it works.


33 posted on 03/04/2006 7:42:03 AM PST by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: devane617
...after helping a friend with a flat tire...

That'll really raise you blood alcohol level. Where is MADD demanding that you shouldn't drive after fixing a flat?

34 posted on 03/04/2006 7:42:07 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: starbase

They've been depending on our want-to-believe for quite some time; I wonder if they are prepared for the blowback from their betrayal.


35 posted on 03/04/2006 7:45:41 AM PST by thoughtomator (I understand Democrats' impatience; If Kerry were President, Iran would have nuked Israel by now)
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To: Vaduz
What can Bush do?

For starters, he can direct federal agencies to enforce the law.

36 posted on 03/04/2006 7:46:25 AM PST by thoughtomator (I understand Democrats' impatience; If Kerry were President, Iran would have nuked Israel by now)
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To: TampaDude

You have no evidence that alcohol was the cause of the accident. The cause was reckless driving which is caused by many factors, including a lack of a sense of responsibility.

Of course coming illegally, haveing no license and having no insurance are also evidence of a lack of repsonsibility.

Most of todays illegals are opportunists, not responsible people coming to America legally to become good citizens.

I live in Arizona and have watched the problem for over fifty years.

We need Mexico fixed, border enforcement and deportation and start over.


37 posted on 03/04/2006 8:30:07 AM PST by amihow
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To: amihow
You have no evidence that alcohol was the cause of the accident. The cause was reckless driving which is caused by many factors, including a lack of a sense of responsibility. Of course coming illegally, haveing no license and having no insurance are also evidence of a lack of repsonsibility. Most of todays illegals are opportunists, not responsible people coming to America legally to become good citizens. I live in Arizona and have watched the problem for over fifty years. We need Mexico fixed, border enforcement and deportation and start over.

Oh, I agree with you on the border problem. We should put the military down there and shoot anyone that tries to sneak across. Maybe some UAVs and land mines, too, for good measure. We need to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY!

However, regarding your statement about me having no evidence that alcohol was the cause of the accident, Florida state law disagrees with you. The defendant, Mr. Espinosa, was operating a motor vehicle on the public highways of Florida and had a BAC more than twice the limit of .08. That is prima facie evidence of DUI in Florida, as it probably is in every other state in the US. That fact ALONE makes Mr. Espinosa fully culpable in the accident.

38 posted on 03/04/2006 8:47:51 AM PST by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: devane617
I have been thinking about doing away with the pain in the ass of registering and insuring my truck. Why even bother with the hassle of renewing my license.

If I get popped I get popped, no big deal.
39 posted on 03/04/2006 9:45:49 AM PST by mmercier (Cortez the killer)
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To: All

I wish a new president were in the White House.

To anyone who feels this way.... What difference do any of you think it would make? This situation has been going on for years, way before Bush came into office and now you want to blame someone? We have no one to blame but, ourselves!


40 posted on 03/04/2006 2:04:46 PM PST by wolfcreek
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