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To: justshutupandtakeit
well, NO as a matter of fact, my source is the data in the bibliography of Dr. Jurgen Thorwald's (LIGHTLY fictionalized historical novels. he states that NOTHING about the "medical portion" of the books is fiction. only the conversations among the players are "invented" AND "where possible are suggested by the published works, letters & memoirs of the physicians involved.) CENTURY OF THE SURGEON & THE TRIUMPH OF SURGERY.

those two novels (in the GERMAN language edition. i do NOT own, nor have i read, the US editions)are the only two books of fiction that i can remember reading that have BOTH a bibliography of sources AND copious footnotes. (my hunch is that Dr Thorwald wrote those books from his PhD dissertation.)

your documentation of your claims, otoh, is LACKING or ABSENT in virtually every case. my guess is that you HOPE that by attacking everyone else (who disagrees with your FALSE posts), will cause your readers to miss that you have FEW or NO facts "on your side".

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885 posted on 03/24/2006 8:21:35 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie; justshutupandtakeit; Non-Sequitur; M. Espinola
my source is the data in the bibliography of Dr. Jurgen Thorwald's (LIGHTLY fictionalized historical novels

Okay, my head's about to explode. YOUR SOURCE IS A GERMAN HISTORICAL NOVEL?????

e only two books of fiction that i can remember reading that have BOTH a bibliography of sources AND copious footnotes.

Read some Allen Eckert.

(in the GERMAN language edition. i do NOT own, nor have i read, the US editions)

Covering your bases in case someone has a copy? You're certainly ready with quotations from it.

your documentation of your claims, otoh, is LACKING or ABSENT in virtually every case

Documentation, you're wanting? Something that trumps a German historical novel? Let's start with Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin

"Heroin was first synthesized in 1874 by C.R. Alder Wright, a British chemist working at St. Mary's Hospital Medical School, London. He had been experimenting with combining morphine with various acids. He boiled anhydrous morphine alkaloid with acetic anhydride over a stove for several hours and produced a less potent, acetylated form of morphine. We now call it diacetylmorphine. The compound was sent to F.M. Pierce of Owens College, Manchester, for analysis. He reported the following to Wright:
Doses … were subcutaneously injected into young dogs and rabbits … with the following general results … great prostration, fear, and sleepiness speedily following the administration, the eyes being sensitive, and pupils dilated, considerable salivation being produced in dogs, and slight tendency to vomiting in some cases, but no actual emesis. Respiration was at first quickened, but subsequently reduced, and the heart's action was diminished, and rendered irregular. Marked want of coordinating power over the muscular movements, and loss of power in the pelvis and hind limbs, together with a diminution of temperature in the rectum of about 4°(rectal failure) [2]"

"Felix Hoffmann, of Bayer in Elberfeld, Germany created Heroin as a medicine 11 days after inventing Aspirin. Afraid of the possible side effects of Aspirin Bayer registered Heroin (meaning 'heroic' from the German word heroisch. It was chosen because in field studies people using the medicine felt 'heroic') as a trademark. From 1898 through to 1910 it was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children. As with Aspirin, Bayer lost some of its trademark rights to Heroin following World War I."

Admit, it Watie..you're on this stuff, aren't you?

890 posted on 03/24/2006 9:50:53 AM PST by Heyworth
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To: stand watie

Apparently the novel fictionalized the name since the discoverer of the drug does not appear in doubt.

I have no concern about "my" readers doubts. They generally let me know about them if significant.


964 posted on 03/28/2006 9:07:31 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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