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Abandon nuclear weapons, China tells India
HT/ Reuters ^ | Beijing, March 2, 2006 | HT/ Reuters

Posted on 03/02/2006 10:03:28 AM PST by CarrotAndStick

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To: CarrotAndStick
"China hopes non-signatory countries will join it as soon as possible as non-nuclear weapon states"


Is this a joke?
23 posted on 03/02/2006 10:59:09 AM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Or else what, you commie gangsters?


24 posted on 03/02/2006 10:59:56 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: CarrotAndStick

you first China


25 posted on 03/02/2006 11:17:41 AM PST by Paul_Denton (Every single troll is now an enemy of the Republic!)
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To: Brilliant

don't hold your breath on china cooperating with us


26 posted on 03/02/2006 11:24:04 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (Islam Schmislam blahblahblah, enough already!)
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To: CarrotAndStick

So basicaly China is India's good prophet?

Bwahaha!

No, seriously, this is threatening.


27 posted on 03/02/2006 11:33:12 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Uh, yea right! Let's see, China to the right of uss has the bomb, the Paks to left do as well, and India is stuck in the middle. India had the bomb back in 1974 and then abandoned it under the belief of "Let's All get rid of these terrible weapons!" Well the rest of the world conveniently ignored its own treaties and pledges (US included). So what to do if you're stuck in a bad 'hood and everybody else is armed?


28 posted on 03/02/2006 11:53:10 AM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Those who live in glass houses....


29 posted on 03/02/2006 12:35:02 PM PST by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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To: RonF
So far, neither country has used a nuclear weapon against someone. Unless you have an instance that the Chinese have. Given some command and control issues with India, I would have to say right now I trust the Chinese more. C&C systems, early warning systems, independent verification, are just some of the issues I have with India and Pakistan. For the longest time the conflict between those nation was the most likely place a nuclear exchange would take place. Now, I think Israel/Iran is the most likely suspects.

Question, does China actually field any nuclear weapons or just store the warheads? I know very little of the Chinese nuclear posture. Perhaps someone can help me.
31 posted on 03/02/2006 4:04:05 PM PST by Kuehn12 (Kuehn12)
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To: CarrotAndStick
The NPT is not worth the paper it is written on. India is smart not to put he future in the hands of the U.N. JFK gave nuclear technology to India decades ago with the atoms for peace project. India has shown no propensity to share A-Bomb technology with others... unlike her neighbors.
32 posted on 03/02/2006 4:09:01 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Brilliant
China needs to start working with us instead of against us.

So you're finally catching on?

33 posted on 03/02/2006 4:56:19 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: CarrotAndStick
India should sign the NPT and also dismantle its nuclear weapons, a spokesman for China's Foreign Ministry, Qin Gang, told a news briefing in Beijing.

Ridiculous hypocrisy by China, as they are helping Pakistan and even North Korea with nuclear weapons. The NPT needs a formalized process that outlines how it can and will be modified, what are the qualifications for how you become a member, and what are penalties for not properly participating. But right now it's just chaos, as China's comments clearly highlight.

34 posted on 03/02/2006 5:08:05 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: CarrotAndStick

Shouldn't every Al-Reuters story be accompanied by a Barf alert?

(Some US lawmakers and nuclear experts have criticised the deal)
Translation: Some Reuters reporters don't like anything Bush does.


35 posted on 03/02/2006 5:17:32 PM PST by winner3000
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To: Golden Eagle
Ridiculous hypocrisy by China, as they are helping Pakistan and even North Korea with nuclear weapons.

I agree it's ridiculous hypocrisy--by a power who disregards something to suggest its neighbor be bound by the same words said power is effectively ignoring.

The NPT needs a formalized process that outlines how it can and will be modified, what are the qualifications for how you become a member, and what are penalties for not properly participating.

The NPT isn't enforceable--and when it was written, it was never designed to be. Why? It was written during the Cold War, at a time when the possessors of nuclear arsenals were NATO (U.S. & Allies) and the Warsaw Pact (the Soviet Sphere/Communist world).

Thus it doesn't carry the weight of international law--just the honor system, where the parties are entire nations. The original parties were infact groups of nations (NATO and Warsaw Pact).

For your changes to work, there would need to be a major rewrite and reratification of the treaty--which is labor intensive, requires much ado in negotiation, and would likely be something most countries will either avoid ratification or ignore it, Effectively putting us back at square one.

Your proposal would require the creation of the NWO by significantly expanding the power of the UN, namely by the creation of a world police force, granting the UN sole power to enforce international law by any means necessary.

Such an action is unacceptable to the free world and thus cannot be a possible solution.

36 posted on 03/02/2006 6:28:48 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: sgribbley
Not possible.

The UN has supported dictators and Communism since day one. The man Truman sent to help set up the UN, Alger Hiss, was later shown to be a Soviet spy. Most of the Secretaries-General were (and are) Socialist in political orientation, and none of them came from nations on the Security Council.

37 posted on 03/02/2006 6:32:20 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Abandon nuclear weapons, China tells India

India to China: You first!

38 posted on 03/02/2006 6:55:07 PM PST by Moorings
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To: CarrotAndStick
India should be building more nukes, and south korea, Taiwan japan and Australian need to start building some as well. We need to play nice nice with India and turn them into a strong free market Ally. They will be an excellent check on expansionist china. And that is what the reds are afraid of!
39 posted on 03/02/2006 6:59:51 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Beware the Democratic party has been over run by CRAB PEOPLE!)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Your proposal would require the creation of the NWO by significantly expanding the power of the UN, namely by the creation of a world police force, granting the UN sole power to enforce international law by any means necessary.

LOL, what? All I said that needs to be done is the non proliferation process be formalized and rules set forth, else it remain a worthless document as it is today. It's effectively obsolete and should be discarded or re-written immediately, else the U.S. lose all respectable right to refer to it again. Unless you don't mind looking as hyprocrytical as the Chinese did, that is.

40 posted on 03/02/2006 7:00:27 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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