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To: Fester Chugabrew
The worldwide presence of fossils, including some at the poles, is generally good evidence for a global flood. Former living creatures encased in sedimentary and volcanic deposits on a global scale. In fact, the evidence is stark. It only remains foggy, or contradictory, to those who are inclined for personal reasons to reject the biblical texts. The only thing one can do is scoff in disbelief. The physical evidence remains fairly clear. Furthermore the account of the flood is by no means fantastic from either a literary or historic standpoint.

The antarctic continent wasn't always at the pole; it has drifted there over geological time. That drift is ongoing and measurable. The fossils on that continent are consistent with its theorised past position. Indeed it was a prediction of the theory of evolution that the antarctic continent would harbour marsupial fossils, and that prediction came true. I won't hold my breath waiting for any surprising prediction made by YEC to come true (hint:YEC is marked by an utter failure to predict anything that wasn't already known, ever).

The evidence is indeed stark. It falsifies biblical literalism at every turn. If the bible didn't exist there would not be a single shred of evidence that would lead anyone to conclude that the world is 6000 years old and endured a global deluge 4000 years ago. Geologists went looking for that evidence 200 years ago and concluded that it wasn't there. Nothing found since has changed that conclusion; on the contrary data from almost every field in science confirms the mainstream scientific position. I note you failed to address either of the specific points that I made (amongst many that I could have cited) that utterly refute any possibility of the geological record being explained by a global deluge.

1,149 posted on 03/02/2006 7:00:25 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: Thatcherite
Geologists went looking for that evidence 200 years ago and concluded that it wasn't there.

Sure they did. They went looking for evidence to support their assumptions and found it. "Predicting" a find of marsupial life at the poles could be just as valid with a gloabal deulge in mind as a billion-year history that was unobserved and unrecorded. I am given to believe the polar regions are a result of the global flood and were not present as such prior to the flood. That is to say the overall climate on this planet was more mild, and consequently allowed for longer life spans. You are given to believe yourself and those who are likeminded to yourself. That's okay. I won't press the legislature to keep your belief out of school.

1,156 posted on 03/02/2006 7:52:41 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Thatcherite
I note you failed to address either of the specific points that I made . . .

Maybe that is because you failed to make specific points. You made sweeping assertions, such as that the earth had to be swarming with life 100 feet deep in order to accomodate the immensity of the fossil record, or that the "perpetrator" of this flood attempted to hide the evidence. Do you really expect such assertions to be taken seriously? The fact stands that the fossil record represents sudden death on a global scale, and this simple observation is in accord with global processes of aquatic and volcanic deposition.

1,159 posted on 03/02/2006 7:59:14 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Thatcherite
I won't hold my breath waiting for any surprising prediction made by YEC to come true (hint:YEC is marked by an utter failure to predict anything that wasn't already known, ever).

The evidence is indeed stark. It falsifies biblical literalism at every turn.

Is the wish the parent of the thought?

Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. "Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down....I tell you the truth, this generation[e] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away."

"As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."
Jesus

Cordially,

1,176 posted on 03/02/2006 8:51:36 AM PST by Diamond
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