Fossil Overturns Ideas of Jurassic Mammals

AP ^ | February 23, 2006 2:43 PM EST | RANDOLPH E. SCHMID

[editor-surveyor]

Vade said to be nice!

[VadeRetro]

So, you're saying the Jurassic is the flood sediments? (Or at least, the flood sediments include the Jurassic?) That's your story?

When creationist geologists were looking for the big world-wide flood in the late 1700s-early 1800s, they couldn't find it anywhere.

[mlc9852]

An evo name-calling - I am shocked!

[mlc9852]

"Most of them will at least now concede that the Earth revolves around the Sun and that the Earth isn't flat."

That cause we learned it here on FR!

[WildHorseCrash]

You missed the "be nice" part?

Just returning a little fire. That's all. Nothing new on these threads.

You're being to hard on the supernaturalists. Most of them will at least now concede that the Earth revolves around the Sun and that the Earth isn't flat.

LOL...

[editor-surveyor]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

[WildHorseCrash]

"Vade said to be nice!"

... complained the poster whose tag line insults large numbers of FReepers with every single post.

[SlowBoat407]

So, you're saying the Jurassic is the flood sediments?

Let me take a sedimental journey...

[furball4paws]

Recently I stumbled ont a neat site. Here's an example.

"The Old Order: Fish Out of Water Fossils of Carboniferous amphibians were relatively well known by the turn of the century, as were their probable piscine (fish-like) ancestors, the Devonian lobe-finned fishes. But there was a sizable anatomical gap between the two, and the transition between fish and tetrapod was frustratingly obscure.

If transitional forms were absent from the fossil record, then perhaps evidence could be collected elsewhere. One conspicuous feature of Late Devonian geology was the prevalence of red sediments in Europe and North America (the "Old Red Sandstone Continent"). In 1916, Joseph Barrell argued that these oxidized sediments were evidence of a harsh landscape subject to severe droughts. He also argued that this severe climate was a major driving force in the evolution of air-breathing vertebrates, including tetrapods.

Elaborations on the idea that Devonian droughts were the driving force for the evolution of tetrapods culminated in 1950s with a "drying pond" scenario proposed by Alfred Sherwood Romer. In this scenario, tetrapods evolved from lobe-finned fishes driven onto the land by drought. As one pool or stream dried out, the fishes ventured onto the parched earth in search of other bodies of water. Over time, natural selection would favor those fishes with more efficient terrestrial locomotion (i.e., with more limb-like fins). In other words, tetrapods evolved from fish out of water.

Preliminary reports on the anatomy of Ichthyostega during the 1950s reinforced Romer's scenario. This Late Devonian tetrapod apparently had well-developed limbs similar to those of some Carboniferous amphibians, but it also had a fish-like tail. A picture emerged of Ichthyostega as the evolutionary consequence of Romer's drought refugees. It was seen as a fully terrestrial tetrapod, but one almost certainly dependent on water for its aquatic young.

It was not until the late 1980s and the 1990s that a series of recent findings upset the old order."

[<1/1,000,000th%]

LOL!!

You're bad!

[WildHorseCrash]

An evo name-calling - I am shocked!

Your eyes glazed over as it passed by post #41, I suppose, huh?

[VadeRetro]

All of the fossilized remains? Including the Cretaceous dino-bird fossils buried by dry-land volcanic ash? Including all the fossilized surface features (scorpion tracks, etc.) buried at various different layers at one site, like the Grand Canyon?

If all the world's underwater, all the lavas are pillow lavas. If all the world's underwater, raindrop imprints in mud can't harden before the next layer buries them. If all the world's underwater, vertical erosion features can't form because they haven't hardened enough to stay vertical. If all the world's underwater, what are all those buried evidences of glacial scraping?

I mean, get real.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Hey!

Who are you calling a type???

[VadeRetro]

Then somebody noticed a Siamese walking catfish chasing his chihuahua around the yard.

[mlc9852]

My eyes glazed over when I saw the title of the thread! lol

[Tax-chick]

Looks pretty similar to me. I think some people up the road are raising docodonts (for the Chinese restaurant market?).

[furball4paws]

Hey it's not a beaver, but it's another one of them pesky transitionals that means there are 2 more transitionals to find.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

e-s is referring to the flood of cement that Genesis describes raining down from heaven to engulf bottom-dwelling ocean creatures on the world's highest mountain tops as the creatures simultaneously turn to stone.

You haven't been reading the Darwin Central Guide on creation science.

[Potowmack]

Your interest in Jurassic beaver is noted.

I'm pretty sure that's the name of an adult movie.

[VadeRetro]

Sounds Old-Testament all right, only several parts jumbled together at once. Maybe we could work a pillar of salt in there.