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To: SandRat
You can quote me on this....What a load of Crap.

The Achievement medal and the MSM is no usually given out for merit or leadership but for ending a tour without screwing up or winning a Sq Commander's popularity contest.

I've seen both given to people who did nothing but show up for work every day. As for the Good Conduct Medal change the standards on it or get rid of it. Hell some of the Achievement Medals I've seen given out where just for good conduct.


4 posted on 02/18/2006 4:44:17 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104
You can quote me on this....What a load of crap.

The Achievement medal and the MSM are not usually awarded for merit or leadership but for ending a tour without screwing up or winning a Sq Commander's popularity contest.

I've seen both given to people who did nothing but show up for work every day. As for the Good Conduct Medal, change the standards or get rid of it. Hell, some of the Achievement Medals I've seen given out where just for good conduct.


6 posted on 02/18/2006 4:50:39 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104
I think the Air Force should extend this policy to their Dining Facilities.
8 posted on 02/18/2006 4:53:14 PM PST by Hoplite (No dessert for you!)
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To: darkwing104

I consider its significance equal to the NDSM issued after you pull fireguard at least once in Basic Training.

Truthfully, there are millions of GCM's on the chests of duds and chronic screw-ups......it IS meaningless.


20 posted on 02/18/2006 5:15:43 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: darkwing104
The Achievement medal and the MSM is no usually given out for merit or leadership but for ending a tour without screwing up or winning a Sq Commander's popularity contest.

You're right. If it wasn't for the GCM some folks would go their whole military career without anything on their shirt.

144 posted on 02/18/2006 9:19:25 PM PST by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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