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The Swedish Media Massage (The disturbing truth about Sweden’s moral decay)
American Family Association ^ | February 17, 2006

Posted on 02/18/2006 3:01:12 PM PST by NYer

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Mr. Crampton serves as Chief Counsel of the American Family Association Center for Law & Policy (CLP), a public interest-type law firm. The CLP's web site is www.afa.net/clp. Mr. Crampton's daily radio show, "We Hold These Truths," can be heard on almost 200 radio stations nationwide. He can be reached at clp@afa.net.
1 posted on 02/18/2006 3:01:15 PM PST by NYer
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Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


2 posted on 02/18/2006 3:02:06 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Swedish churchs are a sea of grey heads.

Once they die, most of the churches will probably close.


3 posted on 02/18/2006 3:05:58 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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Ping to the Swedish Ping List.
4 posted on 02/18/2006 3:08:55 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Swedish Ping List master)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Swedish churchs are a sea of grey heads.

Actually, the state Church doesn't even have many grey heads.

5 posted on 02/18/2006 3:14:19 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Charles Henrickson; NYer
Thanks! This was a GREAT article...can't wait to pass it around!

prisoner6

6 posted on 02/18/2006 3:15:09 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out)
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FYI. Both lists?


7 posted on 02/18/2006 3:15:38 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting.

I had a very similar discussion with a French girl. In the end, when she had no logical means of escaping a contradiction, simply said that the French give little thought to questions of morality or the origins of rights. It would be silly to do such, apparently.


8 posted on 02/18/2006 3:17:26 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: NYer
When I probed Sonya’s human rights argument and asked her where those rights came from, she just stared at me, unable to respond. She was speechless, apparently never having considered the question.

But when she conceded that she judges pedophiles, she stumbled again, and grew indignant. Our conversation ended abruptly only moments later, and I am sad to say our previous good relations were never the same again.

Hopefully the author's friend opened her mind (funny how liberals claim to be exclusively open-minded) a little bit, but based on the reactions (the same type I get with liberal 'friends' during discussions such as this) of the friend, I seriously doubt it.

9 posted on 02/18/2006 3:18:24 PM PST by Looking4Truth (http://www.gunstuff.com/america-attacked.html - NEVER FORGET!)
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To: NYer; TonyRo76

Ping for a still ostensibly Lutheran--but LINO--country.


10 posted on 02/18/2006 3:18:27 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor and Swedish Ping List master)
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To: NYer
While Sweden is without doubt far to the left socially and politically of most Americans (myself included) I have to question some of his claims. Without fail the statistics I have read identify Sweden as having one of the lowest violent crime rates in the world. Drug overdoses are high, but not disproportionate compared to most of the rest of Europe. From the crime statistics in his article I have to wonder if the author has not perhaps confused Sweden with Mexico. What are his sources?
11 posted on 02/18/2006 3:20:21 PM PST by jecIIny (You faithful, let us pray for the Catechumens! Lord Have Mercy)
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
Swedish churchs are a sea of grey heads.

Actually, the state Church doesn't even have many grey heads.

Makes sense. An apostate europe will usher in the muslim mahdi (anti-christ to Christians).

12 posted on 02/18/2006 3:24:20 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: NYer

I happen to think that there are many people who are born gay. Let's call them "authentically gay". I also happen to think that the line in the Bible that says "a man shall not lie with another man" is addressed to heterosexuals, and G-d is saying "it's okay for THEM to do that, but don't YOU go mimicking their behavior.

There are lots of examples of people who aren't authentically gay finding themselves in situations where they engage in gay sex, such as criminals in prisons, men who were sexually abused by pedophiles during their youth which screwed up their heads, and art school students who think that it's a rite of passage to have a gay fling. All of these examples fall under the heading of sexually deviant behavior along the lines of what took place in Ancient Rome.

I'm against gay marriage not because I want to deny authentically gay people the right to legitimize their relationships. I'm against gay marriage because laws are written in very general terms. So if gay marriage is legalized, the law won't make any reference to being gay or straight. So we'll just have a situation where our government makes no distinction between homosexuality and heterosexuality, in terms of one being considered normal and the other abnormal.

So our government will basically be telling people "don't assume that a hetero marriage is right for you and that a homo marriage is wrong for you, so keep your mind open to going either way". Such a society is inviting people who aren't authentically gay to engage in "sexual experimentation", which is another term for sexually deviant behavior.


13 posted on 02/18/2006 3:25:31 PM PST by The Fop (They attacked 2 of America's main arteries, so we invaded the heart of Arabia. It's that simple)
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To: NYer
By European standards Sweden has a fairly high level of property crimes and a fairly low level of violent crimes:


http://www.sweetliberty.org/images/crimefigures.gif

14 posted on 02/18/2006 3:28:49 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: NYer

Is it supposed to say massage in the title?


15 posted on 02/18/2006 3:32:58 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: NYer
about 14 years ago (when i saved up enough money to be able to afford it) i headed off to europe and went through sweden on my way to norway (a much nicer country IMHO). i stopped off in Gotteborg for a night, and late that evening turned on the regular TV channels to see what programs there were.

as you might expect, there was a lot of sex on the channels (NOT cable, these were the regular TV channels!!!).

so, that's what you would expect on sweden you might say? well,*every single one* of the sex programs was gay or lesbian, or sado-masochist, or violent or something. there were *NO* depictions i could tell of normal heterosexual sex.

my lasting impression of sweden is one of degeneracy... i really feel sorry for the swedes.

16 posted on 02/18/2006 3:33:32 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: jecIIny
I have to wonder if the author has not perhaps confused Sweden with Mexico.

The source of the statistics, as the author pointed out in the article, was a report by a Swedish journalist. I doubt he confused his homeland with Mexico.

17 posted on 02/18/2006 3:36:49 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: NYer
They might be abandoning christianity but they sure love Islam. Muslim Rape Wave in Sweden
18 posted on 02/18/2006 3:37:30 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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To: BinaryBoy

Maliginant Narcissism kills.


19 posted on 02/18/2006 3:39:24 PM PST by riri (Bring back A+ Bert...(:)
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To: NYer

Spot on. America is just a step or two behind. Sadly, it is evident even in many of the churches that *ought* to be truth and light.


20 posted on 02/18/2006 3:39:30 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Hate means never having to say you're crazy.)
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