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Employers hit smokers in the wallet
cnn ^ | 2-16-06

Posted on 02/16/2006 4:58:38 PM PST by LouAvul

CINCINNATI, Ohio (AP) -- Smokers squeezed by soaring cigarette costs and workplace smoking bans are increasingly being hit with another cost increase -- this time for health insurance.

A growing number of private and public employers are requiring employees who use tobacco to pay higher premiums, hoping that will motivate more of them to stop smoking and lower health care costs for the companies and their workers.

Meijer Inc., Gannett Co., American Financial Group Inc., PepsiCo Inc. and Northwest Airlines are among the companies already charging or planning to charge smokers higher premiums. The amounts range from about $20 to $50 a month.

"With health care costs increasing by double digits in the last few years, employers are desperate to rein in costs to themselves and their employees," said Linda Cushman, senior health care strategist with Hewitt Associates, a human resources consulting and services firm.

She said the practice of smoker surcharges is becoming such a significant trend that this year, it will be part of Hewitt's annual survey of companies' current and future health care plans.

Cushman said a general benefits survey of 950 U.S.-based employers last year showed that at least 41 percent used some form of financial incentives or penalties in their health care plans.

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They're just now realizing this? When I applied for life insurance, it asked if I used tobacco. I lied.
1 posted on 02/16/2006 4:58:39 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

But I've quit, since!!


2 posted on 02/16/2006 4:59:01 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

I reported you anyway!


3 posted on 02/16/2006 5:00:28 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: LouAvul; The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ...

4 posted on 02/16/2006 5:00:32 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: LouAvul

If smoking makes health care more costly then health care cost should be at their lowest historical rates since the 50's, since smoking has decreased per capita since then.


5 posted on 02/16/2006 5:01:43 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: LouAvul
There's nothing wrong with this.when you apply for life insurance you're asked if you have high blood pressure or cancer and if you skydive.Your premiums are set with the answers to these questions in mind.

If you smoke,weigh 400 pounds or have uncontrolled hypertension then your premiums should be higher.

6 posted on 02/16/2006 5:03:50 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: SheLion

Wait a minute...I thought the idea was for Government to be out of the smoker's businesses and let the businesses decide on there own...Like letting the bar owner's decide if they will allow smoking...This seems like a private business making their own decisions...Applaud!


7 posted on 02/16/2006 5:04:04 PM PST by dakine
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To: LouAvul
hey great but don't whine when they go after drinkers and fat people....remember the lawsuits...everybody was so happy they were going after the evil tobacco companies but now they going after fast food,sodas and cereal so if they wanna do it then go for it but don't whine when its your vice next
8 posted on 02/16/2006 5:04:56 PM PST by skaterboy
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To: dakine

ooops... there = their!

grammar folks, you know...


9 posted on 02/16/2006 5:05:32 PM PST by dakine
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To: skaterboy

I complained about ADA being forced on private businesses...no help from smokers/drinkers/lardasses....


10 posted on 02/16/2006 5:06:36 PM PST by dakine
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To: LouAvul

I may be all wet, but I think genetics are the chief factor in longevity. If both of your parents died young, your chances are that you might too. I think the inverse tends to hold true also.


11 posted on 02/16/2006 5:07:53 PM PST by appleharvey
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"when you apply for life insurance you're asked if you have high blood pressure or cancer and if you skydive.Your premiums are set with the answers to these questions in mind. "

When companies get quotes for health insurance, the health care provider DOES NOT GO AROUND AND ASK EVERY EMPLOYEE ABOUT THEIR HEALTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus H. you-know-what. It is based on the # of employees and the surrounding area health statistics.

This $hit is the biggest READ HERRING going these days.
12 posted on 02/16/2006 5:10:59 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you!)
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To: LouAvul
They're just now realizing this? When I applied for life insurance, it asked if I used tobacco. I lied.

That’s just it – it’s already figured in

Insurers know what policies they’ve sold, who they’ve sold them to, and what they paid out in claims. It’s on the books and in the bag, no guesswork required.

They know what the generic “company” looks like. They know what its generic makeup is and what percentage smoke whether they admit it or not.

That, in part, determines what premium they are willing to offer your employer. Figured up, averaged out, and packaged into a nice, neat little group rate.

If you want to start tagging people that are using more services than they are paying for you’d start with sexually active females of childbearing age. Then you’d extend that to all females, in general.

I'd like to point out that it has been a few years since I have been involved with rate determination, so maybe they've completely changed things since then.

13 posted on 02/16/2006 5:11:10 PM PST by Keyboard Commando
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To: LouAvul

Give it a break, Lou. You've already established your I-hate-private-property credentials. Tell us how much you love Napoleonic law. And go ahead and tell us about the uplifting freedom of democracy rules.


14 posted on 02/16/2006 5:14:15 PM PST by sergeantdave (And on the second day The Lord created February - the slowest month of the year.)
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To: LouAvul

Fatties, you're next!


15 posted on 02/16/2006 5:16:47 PM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: MaDuce
When companies get quotes for health insurance, the health care provider DOES NOT GO AROUND AND ASK EVERY EMPLOYEE ABOUT THEIR HEALTH!

I know that...but they should,just as they do with car insurance and life insurance.

If you have a health problem that's within your power to fix (smoking,overweight,etc) and you don't fix it,then it should cost you $$$ and the extra cash the insurance company gets should be passed along to those with a healthier lifestyle as lower premiums.

16 posted on 02/16/2006 5:18:27 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: LouAvul

That is what is going to happen with smokers in their health care relationships with doctors, too. The smokers will lie about smoking if it is going to harm them economically and socailly. "Do you smoke, Mr. Jones? I used to but I quit, Dr. Nosebud!"


17 posted on 02/16/2006 5:20:09 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

This concept could be extended to AIDS.....


18 posted on 02/16/2006 5:20:53 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: LouAvul
Seems treatment of HIV and\or AIDS would make premiums way higher than a smokers.

So, if a company offers benefits to same-sex partners, shouldn't their premiums go WAAAAAAY up ?
19 posted on 02/16/2006 5:23:56 PM PST by stylin19a (quoting the commerce department)
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To: aviator

agh.......


20 posted on 02/16/2006 5:24:48 PM PST by stylin19a (quoting the commerce department)
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