Saddam talked of WMD attack in U.S.

MSNBC ^ | Feb. 15, 2006 | Lisa Myers

[Anti-Bubba182]

WASHINGTON - Among the treasure trove of information captured after Saddam Hussein's fall were tape recordings of the Iraqi leader discussing weapons of mass destruction with top aides.

Transcripts of Saddam's tapes reviewed by NBC News show him ruminating about future terror attacks in the United States using weapons of mass destruction.

"We shouldn’t be surprised to see a car bomb with nuclear [material] explode [in] Washington, either germ or chemical," Saddam tells aides. "So this is coming,” Saddam says on the tapes, “but not from Iraq," he adds, seeming to indicate that Iraq would not be the source of any such attack.[snip]...

....[snip] Importantly, though, many U.S. intelligence experts say the 12 hours of tape does not solve the riddle of whether Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction before the 2003 U.S. invasion.....[snip}...

Other aides seem to discuss hiding weapons from U.N. inspectors. “We have not told them the truth about the imported material,” one says. He adds, “Where was the nuclear material transported to? A number of them were transported out of Iraq.” He also says: “We will confess, but not to the biological program.”....."

[kimosabe31]

They are nothing but pigs.

Actually, you owe pigs an apology Spacebar. Jackals and hyenas would be more appropriate.

[WoofDog123]

""We shouldn’t be surprised to see a car bomb with nuclear [material] explode [in] Washington, either germ or chemical," Saddam tells aides. "So this is coming,” Saddam says on the tapes, “but not from Iraq," he adds, seeming to indicate that Iraq would not be the source of any such attack.[snip]..."

this is interesting, as it is the same thing many here have worried about for a long time. Hussein apparently could see what the democrats could not and can not.

[Stellar Dendrite]

Vince Foster? Never heard of him.....














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[snowrip]

“Where was the nuclear material transported to? A number of them were transported out of Iraq.” He also says: “We will confess, but not to the biological program.”

“It certainly shows that he was trying to deceive the U.N., but it doesn't show that he actually had weapons in his possession at the time of the invasion,” says Bill Harlow, a former CIA spokesman and an NBC News analyst.

Uhhhhh... sorry Bill, but the liberal argument has always been that he didn't have them AT ALL, not that he didn't have them at the start of the invasion. Also, Hussein isn't waxing hypothetical, he's speaking in a literal sense about tangible objects and factual information.

[SpaceBar]

Yes, I like bacon too. The tapes are chilling however. Saddam Hussein and Tariq Azziz casually discussed the viability and ease of releasing germs in Washington DC and how Iraq would maintain plausible deniabilty. It's all right there for all to hear.

[mass55th]

"Importantly, though, many U.S. intelligence experts say the 12 hours of tape does not solve the riddle of whether Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction before the 2003 U.S. invasion..."

Sorry Lisa, but I'm sure we can find just as many U.S. intelligence experts who will say the 12 hours of tape DOES solve the riddle of whether Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction before the 2003 U.S. Invastion."

[ex-Texan]

MSNBC adds its own editorial comment above the story saying essentially 'Saddam's obsession with WMD does not prove he had them.' Jerks! Saddam's WMD were moved by Russian troops secretly to Syria just before we invaded Iraq. Everybody knows the truth. But the MSM refuses to print the truth.

[My2Cents]

This is nonsense...Saddam didn't have any WMDs. /leftist spin

[Anti-Bubba182]

The amazing thing is that in the same article an aid of Saddam says, "“Where was the nuclear material transported to? A number of them were transported out of Iraq.” "

There is so much in how they spin the story.

Right under the title, " Saddam talked of WMD attack in U.S." they place a subheadline:

"Tapes show him ‘almost obsessed’ with weapons, don’t prove he had them"

At the end of the article they say, "NBC News has not listened to the tapes and has not been able to independently confirm the accuracy of the translations.".

Spin and disclaim, the usual tactic.

[popdonnelly]

Why can't the author disclose the name of the so-called intelligence experts who claim this doesn't solve the question of whether Saddam was hiding WMDs. She's probably quoting Larry Johnson.

[popdonnelly]

Barbara Boxer should shut her trap until she is more informed on what occurred.

[musicman]

This topic brings back a freeper post durring the anthrax incident after 9-11.I can't remember the freeper's name, but I won't forget this "theory" on the topic.

His(or her)post came up with this possible answer:

What if the anthrax letters were actually a not-so-subtle threat by Saddam after 9-11??

The reasons for the "mini" anthrax attack, was to threaten the Bush administration if we were going to invade Iraq, because of the tie-ins with Al-Queda and Saddam's BIG role in training them and letting them use Iraq as a "terrorist basic training site" to attack the US.

Saddam was playing the Oil-For-Food (OFF) thing, and had no way to retaliate against the US in any open attack that could be traced back to him.

Therefore, the Anthrax was the way to go. The US was still smarting from 9-11, had the "Gorelick Wall" still in place,Homeland Security was in BARELY underway, and we didn't have ANY idea if a large scale attack was already set to go here with nothing but a "GO" signal to set it off.

If you were the Bush administration at that time, how would you respond to a threat like that?? The airlines were all going broke because of so many people afraid to fly after the 9-11 attacks. Can you imagine a country wide coordinated anthrax attack, with the USPS as the main vehicle, and major ventalation systems in some of the larger buildings, and then in say the major public transportation systems ALL AT THE SAME TIME??

The Bush administration could have been "blackmailed" very easily by Saddam and Al-Queda, by saying they would do a full blown attack if Bush tried to pin the first attack on him. The attack would have been very hard to prove and connect it on Saddam and Al-Queda in the UN arena, due to the state of our intellegence apparatus at that time, and all the UN member countries involved in it, who could have also been "blackmailed" by Saddam and Al-Queda by threatening to expose them in the scandal if they didn't keep obstructing the US from gathering international support for the US and coalition almost certain retaliatory invasion because of the 9-11 and anthrax attacks.

The Bush adminisration could also NOT GO PUBLIC with this information. It would have devestated the US economy, not to mention the mass panic and fear. No US mail delivery for an extended period of time,due to the leaking of information like that is almost unimagionable. The incubation period alone is such an effective weapon, that by the time we realized that a wide spread attack had taken place,.....well let's just say it would be a major "problem".

And what if this "theory" really was true???

I would have to consider a major anthrax attack on the US in the WMD catagory. Why haven't we found out who did it yet?? IIRC, the "type" of anthrax used was only available to approximately four different locations in the world, with one of the four being in Iraq.


Can you imagine being President Bush, knowing what he knew, but not being able to go public with it?? Knowing for the VERY SURVIVAL OF THE US, HE HAD TO RETALIATE, or the "mudlums" would know they were on their way to our total destruction because we DID NOT RESPOND.

And worse yet, having to take all the crap he's taking since then, because the WMD reason given for our invasion of Iraq, didn't find ANY "Weapon's of Mass Destruction" in Iraq, according to the MSM, and the Dems, and all the Bush haters.

And one more thing before I close...can you imagine if some of the major Dem politial anti-Bush bunch DO know about the situation Bush is in because of his not being able to expose it as yet, and are using it AGAINST HIM by painting Bush as a liar with this NO-WMD's in Iraq, so Bush is a liar mantra??.....

Sorry for the "rant", but IMHO, I considered that freeper's post kinda interesting.....

[Darkwolf377]

Spin, spin, spin!

This report makes Saddam look like a good guy, while the ABC tapes made it look like Saddam was the source of the WMD.

[goodnesswins]

I think Ba Ba knows....she just thinks (hopes) dumb American's DON'T know!

[binkdeville]

Boxer is an ignorant moron ..Ill educated and VERY misguided as to what is real in the REAL world . I'm sure Rice tore her apart.

[ChinaThreat]

The anthrax attacks still perplex me. If someone had access to produce this material, why would they have stopped. Either the government located the source and stopped it from being further distributed and used a willing "target" to take the heat to cover the operation, or a foreign government was sending a not so subtle message. There is no doubt Iraq had Anthrax. It is well substantiated and to this day there are large quantities missing. The only question is who's hands is it in. I tend to doubt Saddam wouldn't have hesitated to use it in 2003.

I have a small suspicion that Iran may have been behind the Anthrax attacks through a proxy agent located in the US.

[binkdeville]

If Saddam stands up in court TOMORROW and says he had WMDs , the Left will ignore it anyway ..They'll say we forced him to say it..They DON"T CARE what the truth is and in all honestly they will avoid the truth at all cost..IT's POLITICS..thats it..I dont believe for a second that the Kennedy's and Klintons and Boxers and whoever REALLY believe their own bullsh*t. They know damn well Saddam was a danger and so are the Islamics ..BUT.they are obcessed with hating Bush and they are obcessed with the fact that he defeated tham and they will lie and sell this country down the river JUST to get back into power.You think that behind cloed door they dont call the Islamo Nazis bastards just like we do..It's all sick politics..They KNOW Bush did the righ tthing ..they just wont admite it ..EVER..NOT EVER...

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mark

[bnelson44]

I have a small suspicion that Iran may have been behind the Anthrax attacks through a proxy agent located in the US.

1) Why?

2) Why stop?

[LiteKeeper]

Take That Cindy, and friends